nothing2seehere wrote: ↑
Fri May 01, 2020 10:13 am
Foil wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:06 pm
cor wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:14 pm
I am not saying that the pansh isn't good, because I simply don't know. Maybe it's even better than the Soul! But what bothering me is that everytime a foil kite is discussed here, the focus seems to be on one aspect of foil kites only: Light wind capability.
so many people just refer to Foil kites as light wind tools,
and the higher end better ones costing way more than the same size lei.
but the high end modern foils are much more than light wind kings,
the top end is unbelievable (range) jumping is better than most lei kites, and in very light winds are better than any lei,
cost is high for one kite, but one decent up to date foil kite replaces 2 or even 3 lei sizes, so great value if you consider that in.
This is the bit I'm interested in. With the exception of the flysurfer kites, I normally see reviews talking about needing to change down a lot sooner on foil kites. Even this review (https://www.kiteworldmag.com/gear/ozone-hyperlink-v1/
) of a top brand foil kite talks of a 7m for 20-25 knots. Thats top end of 11m LEI territory so it looks as though the top end of the kites aren't great when you read the reviews.
Maybe the problem is that the magazine reviewers aren't regular foil kiters so they don't want to launch and land in high winds (or encourage readers to launch/land in high winds) but flysurfer seem almost unique in displaying riding in strong winds on the foils (that I have seen anyway)
it is true that to get skilled on foil kites does take a long time for some guys,(me)
after using leis for 18 years, and with a few short seasons using rubbish foil kites in around the 2009 period, I only started thinking about going back to revisit foil kites once the soul started causing people to talk about it being the best brand model available for free riders, either on a Ttip or foil board.
I did not believe all the hype, but I watched the guys who were buying them with growing interest,
it was only when one of my sailing buddies bought a new set of Ozone Chrono v3 ultralights to replace his old set of v2 chrono foil kites, and he was amazed just how good this new model was for the free ride side of foiling,
I got to get a go on his kites quite a few times but it was hard to form an opinion, as for me they were just so different, scary even,
so technical to launch/land and fly correctly compared to a LEI kite,
but after many sessions and many embarrassing (not my kite) but successful deep water relaunches with no swim ins, I found some big cash, and started to build a quiver of Chronos v3 ultralights, my 13 and 15 being my most used.
As my skill increased the need for the 15 chrono disappeared, soon after the 13mtr was surplus as I stopped using that as well, the 11 mtr and 9mtr chrono v3 ul were really showing me just how much fun a foil kite could be, as jumping was now like a drug,
but many weeks later I was really getting the hang of using the 9mtr in winds so light it shocked me and many others who were used to me using a much bigger foil kite,
continuas day after day use of my 9mtr foil kite ensured I was dialed in to its use from silly light winds to blowing hard, the 9 never complains, the boosting just gets more silly high.
I am not anymore than average skilled on foil kites, there is one guy I know who lives near flag beach,
good free ride foil board rider who only has a 7mtr hyperlink v1 ultra light(Gunnar sold him his old kite),
he is not light, 105kg, and is a joy to watch in almost any wind flag delivers. how it gets going on his 7mtr foil in winds he really shouldn't be able to is amazing, the other guy I know who lives on flag beach 6 months a year is Tom Courts dad, Anthony, he now has good foil kite skills, last season just gone he only used his 9mtr hyperlink 9mtr, another one kite quiver guy!
looks like I will be doing the same for the 6mths I have booked for flag beach, just need to buy myself another 9mtr Ozone Chrono v3 Ulight, just in case,
because if you are going to damage any gear anywhere its at Flag beach, I have been lucky for 3 years. it cant last!