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Soul mixer test.

Postby Ice101 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:29 pm

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Hi guys just some help needed. Above is a picture of my mixer on our 9m soul. I see in Armin’s videos lines b and c usually stretch. The picture below shows my mixer which appears that b and have shrunk a little? The two longer level ones are A and Z the next shorter one is C and the very shortest B. Is that normal? Which way to adjust the mixer knots?
Kite is only a couple months old but has been flying slightly off. The lines were put under 5kg pressure before they were held in place for the photo where they were when stretched.

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Re: Soul mixer test.

Postby Breze » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:27 pm

Watch this vid
Move the knots towards the kiteto make it longer.
C first

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Re: Soul mixer test.

Postby kiteykitekite » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:09 am

It's actually the opposite, move the knot away from the kite to make it longer. That is if we are talking about the loop through the metal ring to adjust.

I don't agree with using 5kg force to measure for shrink. I would use the minimum as possible to remove the bow in the line.

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Re: Soul mixer test.

Postby JakeFarley » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:46 pm

I just performed the long mixer test on my 12m Soul. On both sides of the kite B & C were about .5 cm short. I did not adjust the mixer as I thought that would be in the margin of error for my measurements and would not make that much of a difference in how the kite flies. I suppose that if it were much more shorter it would flatten the camber of the kite making it more efficient or possibly prone to luffing ( :?: )? Any thoughts on this? Should I adjust the mixer to get it exact?

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Re: Soul mixer test.

Postby kitexpert » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:08 pm

JakeFarley wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:46 pm
I just performed the long mixer test on my 12m Soul. On both sides of the kite B & C were about .5 cm short. I did not adjust the mixer as I thought that would be in the margin of error for my measurements and would not make that much of a difference in how the kite flies. I suppose that if it were much more shorter it would flatten the camber of the kite making it more efficient or possibly prone to luffing ( :?: )? Any thoughts on this? Should I adjust the mixer to get it exact?
If your B-C is shortened it means camber is decreased or flattened. This is typical thing to happen when pulley lines and less loaded bridle lines shrink. However this doesn't mean more efficiency but less. Kite will be less prone to luffing (front stall) but having less camber makes kite fly slower and it doesn't go as far in the WW (worse upwind) as it would with higher (or normal) camber.

I'd keep mixer test and bridle line testing separated. Soul has similar line lengths between line rows in higher levels of the bridle, so very easy to compare them to each other without "long mixer test". Then you will be more aware on how lines change in your kite.

Difference of 0,5cm in LMT is not significant in 12m kite.
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Re: Soul mixer test.

Postby Janus » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:37 am

Recently changed my Souls (long) mixer settings.(in cm) and still searching for the best setting.
The conditions you fly the kite in are a significant factor in your settings.. I fly the 10 and 12 in really gusty conditions, a small inland lake
That means gust to the max and lulls to below the minimum.. (foiling)

At the 12; ABCZ equal gives me some tip collaps and the tendens to frontstalling. with A,B-0.5, C-1.0,Z gives a more relaxed behaviour.
The 12 flies the best on my small lake. Has the best float in lulls.

The 10 with ABCZ equal is not flyable at all, collapsing all over the place.. will have to find the sweet spot but A,B-1.5, C-3,Z will be the minimum setting.
IME differeces of 0.5cm do matter for my 12m, the smaller the kite the more it matters.

Put ABCZ equal and see how it flies, if you get some tiptuck or frontalls, shorten C-1.0cm (move the knot 2cm towards the pulley) and fly again. if needed repeat.
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Re: Soul mixer test.

Postby Adventure Logs » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:10 am

Having B and C slightly shorter will increase stability. Are you having problems with the kite? If not then just leave it alone. If you do want to mess with it, make sure you use a sharpie or something to mark where it is before hand so if you make it worse, you can easily go back.
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