Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

For all foil kite riders
User avatar
BillyGoatGruff
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 614
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:22 pm
Local Beach: UK
Gear: Naish Torch's
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 58 times

launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby BillyGoatGruff » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:09 am

I'm interested to know (as a non-foil owner), how do Flysurfer's hold up to being launched and landed on pebbly, muddy and shingle beaches with broken shell fragements etc ? In all the Flysurfer promo videos they are always on a big clean sandy beach, many beaches are not like these. Kiting in the UK we have a fair few which are shingle, do the kites get torn and damaged easily when flapping around in the wind while packing up ?

hayes
Rare Poster
Posts: 43
Joined: Mon May 19, 2014 9:38 pm
Gear: Flysurfer Speed 3 15m
Flexifoil Hadlow ID's
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby hayes » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:29 pm

I’ve launched and landed on stones for years and never damaged my Flysurfers. I do check to make sure there’s no obvious broken shells or anything really sharp

On the flip side bought two inflatables and have worn through the canopy where it touches the bladder simply from rolling the kite over on the beach to be launched, it must be due to having a solid bladder behind the section of the canopy that’s rubbing

User avatar
Adventure Logs
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1123
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:18 pm
Local Beach: Punta del Diablo, Uruguay
Favorite Beaches: Durban, SA
Corpus Christi
Gear: Flysurfer, Moses, Groove, Slinghot, Nobile, Zeeko
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 118 times
Contact:

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby Adventure Logs » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:16 pm

BillyGoatGruff wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:09 am
I'm interested to know (as a non-foil owner), how do Flysurfer's hold up to being launched and landed on pebbly, muddy and shingle beaches with broken shell fragements etc ? In all the Flysurfer promo videos they are always on a big clean sandy beach, many beaches are not like these. Kiting in the UK we have a fair few which are shingle, do the kites get torn and damaged easily when flapping around in the wind while packing up ?
They don’t really get damaged from flapping around. Where you may see wear though is if you are sliding the kite across a surface like that and that’s usually on the leading edge where the plastic wires are. The Soul was designed specially to help reduce this wear(the plastic lines aren’t right on the leading edge).
These users thanked the author Adventure Logs for the post:
andrzej351 (Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:30 pm)
Rating: 6.67%

slide
Frequent Poster
Posts: 345
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:54 pm
Local Beach: Brancaster Norfolk 46 miles
Favorite Beaches: mablephorpe , cleephorpes
Style: landboarding with a work harness
Gear: old blades and old flysurfer's , ckb/dex carbon decks/and now 6/8/10/12 soul, 15 spd5
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: east anglia, uk
Has thanked: 45 times
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby slide » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:31 pm

razor shells are the danger at most uk beaches and they are mostly broken and if ya kite swipes across them , holes or cuts or a lucky kiter

SolarSet
Frequent Poster
Posts: 269
Joined: Sat May 05, 2018 9:30 am
Kiting since: 2017
Local Beach: Hel Peninsula
Gear: Boost3 7m
Switchblades 10m,
XR6 8m & 11m
Soul 15m
NHP Split
Shinn Ronson
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 49 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby SolarSet » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:36 pm

With assist lunching & landing you reduce risk of wear greatly. If lunching solo I would place some mat underneath tip facing wind which you place some weight for lunching.
I think most risk is from kite sliding accord beach in side lunch and weight on on tip.

User avatar
BillyGoatGruff
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 614
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:22 pm
Local Beach: UK
Gear: Naish Torch's
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby BillyGoatGruff » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:34 pm

They don’t really get damaged from flapping around. Where you may see wear though is if you are sliding the kite across a surface like that and that’s usually on the leading edge where the plastic wires are. The Soul was designed specially to help reduce this wear(the plastic lines aren’t right on the leading edge).
Interesting, I guess they don't have much internal pressure when landed on the ground and therefore are not flapping with any real force. So is it pretty rare to have to sail patch a foil then ?

User avatar
jakemoore
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2095
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:59 am
Gear: Foil and 1strut kites.
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: Oleander
Has thanked: 70 times
Been thanked: 149 times
Contact:

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby jakemoore » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:08 pm

Tangling the bridle is a bigger issue for example if you have roots or rocks embedded in the ground. The canopy will tend to drape around debris on the beach.
These users thanked the author jakemoore for the post:
loco4viento (Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:08 am)
Rating: 6.67%

B-Roc
Medium Poster
Posts: 53
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:05 am
Local Beach: Nahant, MA
Style: Kite landboarding and skiing
Gear: Gin, JOJO, Mac Para, Ozone, Flexifoil, Ground Industries, MBS
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: Massachusetts
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby B-Roc » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:54 pm

Foil flyer since 2005 and I've only ever had one problem where a fly line was damaged as the kite slid around on a turbulent day and crossed some rough shells. Launching is not a problem and controlled landings usually aren't either. The problems occur when the kites are staked out or unattended for a period of time or as others stated, if the bridle snags seaweed or grass or sticks that cause it to pinwheel, etc. If you fly in control, you don't really have a a problem.

Foil
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1217
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:44 pm
Kiting since: 2000
Local Beach: NewBrighton beach-Derby pool end,Wallasey, near Liverpool for 6 months in summer
Flag beach on fuerteventura for 6 months in winter.
Favorite Beaches: Flag beach fuerteventura, off season/6months
Home - NewBrighton,Rhosneigr, Ainsdale, Fleetwood, Newbrough
Style: improving foiler.
Gear: Groove Skate 120,carbon 2020 edition
101cm + 82cm Moses Carbon masts
Moses- 633/483 on a 701 fuse
Moses- 720 balz pro/425 on longer 739 fuse
Ozone Hyperlink V1 ultra light 5mtr
Ozone V2 Hyperlink 7mtr + 9mtr
Ozone Chrono V3 UL foil kite 11mtr
Ozone compact V4 bars,click in,23 mtr lines
duotone click bar 2020
massive grin
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 96 times
Been thanked: 227 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby Foil » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:17 pm

My beach has many patches of shells all very much broken into fragments and sharp.

If I have to land on to- or too near to a patch then my helper- super wife- will not place the kite down, she just clasps the folded end with both hands and kneels on the sand holding the folded end against her legs, I run to the other end after unzipping or opening the velcro vents and then we either roll in from both ends or I fold over my end to her and then both rollup together on our legs, good way to do it as it keeps the kite clean and dry and away from sharp shells.

if super wife is not around then after recruiting someone to land me, I ask them to hold the kite low until I grab it from them, I immediately then start to roll one half of the kite to the middle on my legs whilst kneeling, then open the air valves or zip, rest my board on the rolled section and roll in the other end against my legs'

then there is the very odd occasion when the weather is so bad and the sand soaking wet and shelly then super wife knows to catch the end fold in a large section of kite and get low and grab in more kite keeping it clear from the sand, I run to open the deflate bits and fold in the other end and pass the kite bundle to pauline, then I remove the lines and pauline then bundles the kite into the rear of my people carrier, this is then dealt with back at home.

as with a lei kite, in rotten weather and wet sticky sand situation, just bundle it in the car after rolling it up or folding it up off the sandy wet beach, a clean wet kite is so much better than one full of wet sand, seaweed and shells.

apollo4000
Frequent Poster
Posts: 361
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:27 pm
Kiting since: 2006
Local Beach: Camber / Lancing / Whitstable
Favorite Beaches: The next one
Style: trying hard
Gear: All sorts
Brand Affiliation: Nope. Just a regular Joe.
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: launch/landing foil kites on rough beaches ?

Postby apollo4000 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:43 pm

I can attest given two sketchy landings over sand and shell beaches in Norfolk. Currently have a love/hate relationship with my Souls but not quite putting them on eBay.


Return to “Foil Kites”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests