So it's really interesting and a bit ironic after posting my comparison things are changing.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:30 pmOldman_Dave wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:07 pmMy friend is very experienced with souls. He is 20kgs lighter on a slightly smaller but still large surf Moses wing. We foil together a lot. This is what happens:
Me 4m peak = him 6m soul
5m peak = 8m soul
6m peak = 12m soul
13m peak = 12m soul
I have tried a few kites for the absolute low end. Cloud, trip, chrono in 12m. Now 13m peak. I'm still not convinced, I'm hoping to try 10m Nova Ultralight for the role next.
Interesting, as this corresponds somewhat to what I experienced, not at all the same size chosen in the same wind/weight/foil.
Soul users takes a LOT bigger kite.
And he is even 20 kg lighter, although a tad smaller wing you say.
Then again, tomtom says they have the same power for the same size
Is it because Soul users typically WANT to ride in the upper end (which is a lot higher I assume), so loads of margin in lulls?
Whereas Peak4 users go for the sweetspot, actually lower than the sweetspot if the next size is an 8 m2.
So we get tricked when seing the difference in sizes used, between kitefoilers?
Also, those choosing a Peak, are usually those having fun carving and in waves, whereas many Soul users might be more "allround" and jump and speed minded maybe?
Could also explain, if two different target groups
Hi Peter,Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:35 pm...
I have always been sure the 4-5-6 m2 racefoil (or other double skin relatively okay performant foil kites Soul or similar) kites would give you even better lowend, than the Peak4 or FireFly kites.
On cost of ease and drift of course - but that is not the topic here, only how low can you go.
But when reading in here, and talking to friends, and seeing what they ride, something seems odd, as they seem to need a bigger kite than us using Peak4 kites, even with the same foilwing...
The more peak power (for its size) a kite can generate, the lower wind you can foil.
In the medium sizes 10 to 12 m2, nothing beats the racefoil kites in terms of lowend, because of that.
But in supersmall sizes (I dont know it there ARE racefoilkites below 7 m2?) it does not seem to be the same, or what do you guys/girls say?
Have you considered the Pulsion 18M? That is what i am on now after selling my 13M Peak.
I think that’s a star correct? If so, been around for a little while. Much higher AR so better upwind performance but won’t drift well which is where a Peak shines. I’d love to fly one though.
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