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Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby martrench » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:25 pm

Looking forward to hearing some reviews on the 21m Sonic 3 👍

joriws wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:28 pm
Did you notice 21m Sonic 3 was released today/yesterday.

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby chaosgate » Sat May 08, 2021 1:37 pm

Tone wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:18 pm
I have a mate who weighs 75kg and he has just ordered the 21. I think it's a mistake, but I will happily test it for him @110kg :D
Did your mate try it out yet? I wonder how fast he gets overpowered at that weight when the wind picks up a little

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby martrench » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:55 pm

Any feedback on the 21m Sonic 3 yet?

Curious if it's a better option than the 21m Soul. Thanks!

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby pmaggie » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:27 pm

As martrench, I'm very curious about a Sonic 21 review. I own a Sonic 3 13 and a Speed 5 21 and they are soooo different! The Speed is easier and far more predictable but the Sonic is far better in any aspect except in very gusty (VERY gusty) winds. I'm quite tempted to sell the Speed and buy a Sonic 18...

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby fernmanus » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:45 am

I have been flying the Sonic3 21m & the Soul v2 21m back to back for a few months.

First of all, I would like to see a 23m Soul v2, not a Sonic3 23m as the Soul handles better in super light flukey winds. A 23m Soul v2 would be the ultimate light wind kite for snowkiting.

Let’s talk about the 21m versions. First the Soul v2. It is more stable than the Sonic3 and has a lower aspect ratio, so it is the kite of choice for light variable winds. If you kite in places where the wind dies and the kite drops to the surface for a period of time, this kite is superior to the Sonic or if you kite in gusty wind, it is the better choice. It is easier to relaunch, loops with more power compared to the Sonic. It is less prone to bow-ties or tip folds due to user error or crappy wind.

The Sonic is better for smooth wind. Since it is a more efficient kite, it is easier to zip quickly in apparent wind. It boosts better and has better hang-time than the Soul. It also packs up more quickly and has a simpler bridle set.

So, which kite should you buy? If you fly in gusty conditions or are new to foil kites the Soul v1 or v2 is the better choice. If you fly smooth ocean breezes and are a more experienced rider, the Sonic3 is an amazing kite.

I find myself reaching for the Soul when the wind is flukey, while if the wind is smooth or a bit stronger, I prefer the Sonic. Both kites have a comfortable top end for me around 20 knots. I weigh 190 LBS and I have been flying foil kites for many years.

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby mede » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:19 am

fernmanus wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:45 am
Both kites have a comfortable top end for me around 20 knots. I weigh 190 LBS and I have been flying foil kites for many years.
Are you sure you didn't mean 20 MpH?

When it's blowing consistent 20 knts, I'm boosting my 12m2 Blade trigger up to 10m or more....
Here you're talking 80% more surface in a kite with higher aspect ratio.

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby Peter_Frank » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:31 pm

mede wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:19 am
fernmanus wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:45 am
Both kites have a comfortable top end for me around 20 knots. I weigh 190 LBS and I have been flying foil kites for many years.
Are you sure you didn't mean 20 MpH?

When it's blowing consistent 20 knts, I'm boosting my 12m2 Blade trigger up to 10m or more....
Here you're talking 80% more surface in a kite with higher aspect ratio.

I think he is right.

The higher the AR, and the more racey a foil kite is, the less drag, and the more forward it can fly.

What every kite or foilracer seeks.

This also means you got a LOT higher windrange with these kites, no comparison to balloons (LEIs) whatsoever.

As an example, if I am out foiling with a 5 m2 Peak4 kite (a low AR wavekite), my friends are sometimes riding racefoils next to me with 20 or 21 m2 kites, and we all feel its "fine" :rollgrin:
Quite amazing.

So it makes perfect sense with this extreme windrange, as the high AR foilkites has loads of powerspike compared to everything else, so low end quite good, and amazing if on a hydrofoil,

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Re: Why FS should consider adding a 23m Sonic 3 to their lineup

Postby fernmanus » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:29 pm

Yes, 20 knots. I would never launch a 21 in that much wind, but I have flown it winds that strong when other kiters were riding 12m LEI kites. In 20 knots, I would launch a 15m Sonic or a 12m Soul if the wind is gusty.


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