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Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby sonny2727 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:47 pm

Just wondering about this since I'm considering a new kite ..From what I see Peak is not a good kite for driving hard and getting air as the best use of a Peak is drift and wave riding ..Has anyone tested Peak with Alulua Roam? There is a big difference in price so I want to consider what Peak can offer even if it doesnt match 100%

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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby tkaraszewski » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:58 pm

I can't, no. Fred Hope probably could if his sponsor allowed it.

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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby Trent hink » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:11 pm

The peak is a wave kite. You can get some lift out of it if you are well-powered, but otherwise it is totally gutless.
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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby tmcfarla » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:22 am

Peak4 are the worst jumping kite I've ever used, and by a very large margin. they will sort of lift you up, and then drop you like a sack of rocks. They are great kites, but not for jumping.
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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby Adventure Logs » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:54 am

If you want similar traits as the Peak but with the lift for jumps then try a Soul 6m.
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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby joriws » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:39 am

Exactly, small Souls and Hyperlinks are quite close to Peaks, but naturally are more expensive unless you find 2nd hand.

About 2nd hand, also Speed4 8m deluxe drifts well and is fast and agile in the sky.
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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby jakemoore » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:21 pm

Smalls Souls and Speed 4s are great kites with light weight, good lift and great upwinds but they are absolutely nothing like the UFO/Ghost/Cloud/Peak

They really aren't even close in turning speed, instant depower, sheet and go power, sit deep in the window turning freely while sheeted in riding downwind.

I think jumptheshark is stoked with strapless peak jumps.

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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby sonny2727 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:38 am

jakemoore wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:21 pm
Smalls Souls and Speed 4s are great kites with light weight, good lift and great upwinds but they are absolutely nothing like the UFO/Ghost/Cloud/Peak

They really aren't even close in turning speed, instant depower, sheet and go power, sit deep in the window turning freely while sheeted in riding downwind.

I think jumptheshark is stoked with strapless peak jumps.
This is exactly what I believe - the best compromise is UFO/Cloud if you can justify the price compared to Peak..This is not my main style but this style and equipment I find perfect for winter westerlies/rain with 633 wing and I have changed my mind about race oriented gear when the wind varies so much. i.e. not fun and there are better alternatives . So I admit I'm wrong :) Boosting big is not the only game in town!

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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby jumptheshark » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:02 am

Peak4, cloud, UFO etc are similar but different. Not sure you can round the world or dead man turn on a peak, but other than slack line antics, I’m pretty sure you can do most everything else Fred does in the video posted on a Peak4.

Peak4 lift is similar to clouds and they cater to a similar riding style. I personally prefer the Peaks for a host of reasons but would opt for strutless as a fairly close second.

Certainly a rider familiar with strutless kites would get comfortable quickly on a Peak4 and vice versa.

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Re: Can you fly Peak4 Fred Hope style with little airs

Postby sonny2727 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:13 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:02 am
Peak4, cloud, UFO etc are similar but different. Not sure you can round the world or dead man turn on a peak, but other than slack line antics, I’m pretty sure you can do most everything else Fred does in the video posted on a Peak4.

Peak4 lift is similar to clouds and they cater to a pretty similar riding style.

Certainly a rider familiar with strutless kites would get comfortable quickly on a Peak4 and vice versa.
Thanks. I already have 3M Peak but that only comes out in high wind for drifting downwind.. if 5/6m can have good turning speed then it could be a good cheap solution to keep my learning curve - another thing to learn before I die from COVID, without the UFO price tag - wish UFO/Cloud cheaper in AU


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