Yeah, even without a lot of experience, it's not easy to collapse a Peak. I remember when I first flew the 4m - I was shocked at how straightforward it was to use. Not really any learning curve at all. In my first 10 - 15 sessions using Peaks (6m & 4m) I never collapsed them. I did put them in the water a few times while waterstarting underpowered (something to watch out for as the 4m will back stall & turn into the water very quickly if you put too much pressure on it the back lines). However, I managed to reverse relaunch the kite every time when it happened, as it goes down nose first.Cefirmeza wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:12 pmSecond time using a Peak in 4m on proper wind for the size and after a toeside turn the kite colapses in the air and crashed. I could make a reverse relauch but pulled the wrong side and crashed again with no chances to relaunch so I had a swim in after a long kite kitefoiling.
What may have caused this colapsing? I was very aware of not crashing the kite but this was a bad surprise for me.
Perhaps an over sheeting or may reversed it.
What could have possibly gone wrong?
Hardwater Kiter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:30 pmSo many questions, sorry.
Exactly what kind of collapse? Frontal/leading edge collapse? Stalled/oversheet collapse? Random drifting and hit a rotor and collapse? total collapse or single wingtip? Were you powered or drifting?
I've run the Peaks with both Y, Low V. For our local riding low V is plenty stable in our inland turbulent conditions. As others have stated, zero issues with Low V and is preferred here as on the rare times the kite inverts it is still airworthy with the low V whereas Y lines are not nearly as functional inverted.
Bullseye.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:27 pmAaah, okay, I think you simply have to use more time to "get the feel" of perfect sheeting.
When you write your powered kiteloops are odd and somewhat losing shape, it is definitely because you dont hold the perfect sheeting all the way round the loop.
It is extremely sensitive if you under and in particular oversheet, even just one or two cm can kill the kite and its shape..
So when you were riding toeside, I think the same has happened - not because you underfly the kite.
You are over sheeting, without knowing
What you experience is very normal for everyone using the 3 and 4 m2 Peak4 for the first long long period of time.
It takes a lot of time to learn to sheet perfect on your backbone - and in particular to learn to loop it in a wide arc without too much nor too little sheeting - is REALLY difficult, and the most important skill to learn in order to start in their low end.
Dont think about it from now on, just ride and it will all come in time by itself, I am sure, just like everyone else has experienced.
Peter
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