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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby lederhosen » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:32 am

There are a bunch of deals on new peak5 right now. Is there a new peak planned this winter or is there an overstock or something?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby IWantToFly » Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:20 am

Peak 5 isn’t very old. I’d be pretty surprised if they updated it that quickly. Maybe the price jump from Peak 4 to Peak 5 was too much for some folks to upgrade. Or maybe Hybrid sales are cutting into Peak sales.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby Adventure Logs » Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:10 pm

So I ended up getting a Gin Marabou2 in 6m because I really love my Peak5 6m and today for shits and giggles I ended up laying them on top of each other. All I gotta say is wow, the profile is almost exact(wing tips on the Gin are a little more rounded/smaller). The Marabou2 really is a Peak5 that's water relaunchable.
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby flaps1111 » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:58 pm

What is the minimum line length to fly a Peak? I'd like to try it with a skate Carver. If I remember correctly, I read in this thread that someone broke part of the kite by using lines that were too short...

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby joriws » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:00 pm

flaps1111 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:58 pm
What is the minimum line length to fly a Peak? I'd like to try it with a skate Carver. If I remember correctly, I read in this thread that someone broke part of the kite by using lines that were too short...
Armin Harich has video online where peak4 13m is connected directly to the bar. Though not a high wind on the video.

On the same channel also is similar direct connect hybrid with hydrofoil.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby Regis-de-giens » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:02 pm

question to experts of peak5 ; sorry certainly already answered in the 53 pages but I'll appreciate your educated comparision between peak4, peak5 and hybrid sor a special application , and looking for lowest budget (peak4) if not too much technical difference ... my need is around simili sup-foil downwind (special but you could give your best guess):
- size 2.5 or 3 or 4m max , use on a wingfoil board , 60kg
- in about 20 knots , for freefly, so pure downwind
- kite as neutral as possible , and trying to reach a kind of auto-zenith : kite stable around the zenith without hands on the bar, but only punctual and minimum inputs of the pilot


in your opinion what are the pro and cos of those three kites on those special features ?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby Slappysan » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:40 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:02 pm
simili sup-foil downwind (special but you could give your best guess):
- size 2.5 or 3 or 4m max , use on a wingfoil board , 60kg
- in about 20 knots , for freefly, so pure downwind
- kite as neutral as possible , and trying to reach a kind of auto-zenith : kite stable around the zenith without hands on the bar, but only punctual and minimum inputs of the pilot
in your opinion what are the pro and cos of those three kites on those special features ?
This is how I ride my Peak 4s, but in lighter winds and with with small windswell not really waves. I can't really speak to the Peak 5 or Hybrid, just my Peak 4 5m+6m. Here's a video I posted earlier in this thread:
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Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:55 am
In this clip at 4:39 I'm riding straight downwind in around 9 knots of wind pumping the foil. Not sure how fast I'm going downwind but probably around 7 knots. You can see my hand isn't even on the bar and the kite is just hanging out chillin'. I am holding the top steering line in order to help make sure the kite stays in the air as well as ensure that bar is sheeted out so I get as little power from the kite as possible:
You wont get any auto zenith type behaviour but as long as the Peak 4 is seeing 3-4 knots of wind it will just hang out in the sky with minimal input.

The 2.5m is probably too small for 20 knots, you could make it work but if it dropped to 18 you might struggle, a huge factor is how you intend to start. I ride a 58L wingboard and I thought I would be able to knee start it when the wind was super light but have yet to be able to do it. So the defining factor is still how much power I need to water start. If you are planning to use a 70L+ board you can probably knee start it which will massively increase your low end. On the other hand water starting a 70L+ board will really suck, my 58L board is doable but a bit annoying to water start.

Another big factor is your waves. If you have legit swell that's moving at 15 knots straight downwind and you only have 20 konts of wind you are hitting the point where you will have to fly the kite more, especially when you do a cut back on the wave and start heading even faster directly at your kite.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby Regis-de-giens » Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:15 pm

Thanks. Iwas hoping to waterstart transverse to thé wind to avoid négative apparent wind, like kitefoil.
I am affraid Indeed that 2.5 m isl low but that IS what m'y Friend Marc blanc uses for sale exercises and After long investigations and test.
Peak 4 would bé cheaper and 3m but i am affraid of its stability pure downwind, and m'y souvenir of fréquent loose of structure compared to closes Leading edge firefly or hysper2, which i Never tried in so low sizes....

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby alekbelia » Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:39 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:02 pm
question to experts of peak5 ; sorry certainly already answered in the 53 pages but I'll appreciate your educated comparision between peak4, peak5 and hybrid
...
in your opinion what are the pro and cos of those three kites on those special features ?
Peak5 2.5 is most stable in the zenith. Peak4 is almost as stable.
For an application like yours both kites are better suited than the Hybrid.
If you do not want high maneuverability from the kite, then use a light 30 cm bar.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 5

Postby Regis-de-giens » Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:12 pm

Excellent...
Some précisions. , 65 litres and two possible foils: 1800 medium ratio and 950 high ratio . Still 60kg...

I Could waterstart on knees i suppose with the kite (because i Can do taxi waterstart with my 5m wing and i know foilkites very well).

My objective is pure swell supfoil mode, meaning do not use kite traction when downwind and only freeflying with nothing in hands, (except go slowly upwind to another round like what is called upwind-defleat in wingfoil)

Have i understood well ? You advise Peak4 3m or Peak5 2.5 meters better than hybrid 2.5 meters ? And cheaper... Could you détail a bit why and Is this advise shared by other users?

Is Peak structure stable enough in case i punctually goes faster than wind compared to hybrid?

I had a Peak5 5m but did not use it that way, more freeride2 hydrofoil


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