Flysurfer Skywalk Flare - what is it?

[HALF]

i was told that it won't have anything to do with kitesurfing, but will be a game changer for paragliding, let's wait and see. I may start a new hobby if they present it well.

[Breze]

https://go-flare.com/Academy/

Reflex profil and a mixer

[derek440]

It looks awesome and i want one!

[darippah]

It doesn't look very closed cell to me Screenshot_20220123-224412.png

probably mainly soaring maybe snowkite like some people also "kite" with paragliders as part of groundhandling practice.

I'm pretty damn sure this will also be a water kite. We shall wait and see.

Tell us what you know!! haha

How I wish this can be used on water with a hydrofoil and be able to take off and glide for a ridiculous amount of time

Does anyone know what the minimum elevation / slope needed is ?

[Schietwedder]

Also thought about what would happen if it was closed cell.....
Probably starting and landing would be harder in more wind but I also think not impossible since when you bring a normal closed cell down, the wind window is way bigger.
A safety issue? I cant say. For sure backwards landing a 15-22m² closed cell in 10-15 knots of wind let alone 20 knots is not so easy. Cobra launch, yes quite easy probably, but landing without asistance..... Maybe a stabilo line going to the wingtips which you could pull until you grab the wingtip flagging the kite out....if the bridle is not too short..
Collapses could be a major issue.... closed cell could collapse very seldomly but when it does very brutal.
Although people snowkite/fly down with closed cells since ages and nothing happens.

For the intended purpose closed cell would make little sense, for kiting yes but does that work with 0m lines and aren´t you way overpowered when using similar wind strength and area that you also would fly in?

Also massive flights without a dune or some vertical wind component? I dont know. Maybe a hydrofoil which sucks you down like an anchor as opposed to creating lift.....

I had some experiments in my head making a new bridle for my 16.5m and connecting that to a flying harness.
Since I have no paragliding experience and this is also probably not covered by the accident/health insurance with self made gear a step too risky up to now.

What I am creating though is a 4m closed cell Kite/wing and try with skateboard/wingfoil.... if it does not work I can re bridle for a 4m low AR storm foil-kite.

[Schietwedder]

Benni Boelli (the designer among Armin, Benni Kälin and so forth) confirmed when I asked under a FB post that closed cell makes no difference when flying properly but colapses indeed get more violent/dangerous with closed cell because the canopy can´t take "energy" out of the collapse when deforming. (much like a crumple zone in a car crash maybe as a cliffhanger) So the collapses get more dynamic or canopy can get tangled on closed cell canopy. That is of course not what you want clode to the ground. Also groundhandling becomes a little more difficult.

What they got years of experience ahead now is porbably late stall although running reflex profiles and making the collapses managable and not dangerous close to the ground. This is probably also why diy solutions or other brands copying it would be only advisable (copying is never advisable though ) with large test pilot experiences or very good flying capabilities. So I´m out "just" converting one of my kites which was not designed for flying in the first place.
If it was so easy they would have brought it years ago.
Huge respect to their team.

But man now that you see it works, very tempting to do a licence and get one of those. My local spot is full of cliffs and steep coast lines with soft beach below. (although it´s not legal in Germany being not licensed as a paraglider)

[a99]

In real landing