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Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby Ice101 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:39 am

Any one have sonic 3’s in both 11m and 13m? Which is more fun overall and most used? Doesn’t he 13m have a great deal more float and hang for to use only?
I’m roughly 86kgs.

Also what’s the best bar to be flying a sonic off? The force bar looks the nicest but are there advantages over the force with the others other than the auto line untwist which I am really not bothered about?

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby tkaraszewski » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:59 am

For what use? I have a Sonic 3 in 13m and 9m and a VMG2 in 11m. i love the Sonic 3 in 13 but had a bunch of problems with the 9m. Using a SK Shapes bar.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby MaximumAC » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:43 am

tkaraszewski wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:59 am
For what use? I have a Sonic 3 in 13m and 9m and a VMG2 in 11m. i love the Sonic 3 in 13 but had a bunch of problems with the 9m. Using a SK Shapes bar.
What sort of problems with the 9m? And how do you feel about VMG2 fragility vs the Sonics?

To OP, I have an 18/15/11 Sonic 3 quiver for "race-style" and feel like that's an appropriate spread for my weight (~70-75kg). As an all purpose kite I'd choose the 13, especially at 86kg.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby SolarSet » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:11 am

Ice101 wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:39 am

Also what’s the best bar to be flying a sonic off? The force bar looks the nicest but are there advantages over the force with the others other than the auto line untwist which I am really not bothered about?
Flysurfer Force Bar is not the best I had it for 2 years and was happy to sell it. It has very shallow grooves for wrapping lines on each ends meaning that often lines slipped off while wrapping and unwrapping having to deal with avoidable bar line tangles.
The whole thing is somehow bad designed that it easy to tangle kite or bar lines. Chicken loop unnecessary heavy, I don't understand why they haven't upgraded it yet. The experience with their bar made me question their ability to do good design...
I would recommend INFINITY XX Control Bar it has autountwist but if you don't use it, this bar is much nice than FC.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby Ice101 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:02 pm

Thank you for the bar feed back. That’s very interesting as nearly pulled the trigger on one. Wasn’t so keen on the look of the infinity ones and the winders etc.
Surprised Re the force so good to know.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby Ice101 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:37 pm

tkaraszewski wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:59 am
For what use? I have a Sonic 3 in 13m and 9m and a VMG2 in 11m. i love the Sonic 3 in 13 but had a bunch of problems with the 9m. Using a SK Shapes bar.
Just for twin tip use only. Lighter winds and airstyle foolery.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby Ice101 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:38 pm

tkaraszewski wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:59 am
For what use? I have a Sonic 3 in 13m and 9m and a VMG2 in 11m. i love the Sonic 3 in 13 but had a bunch of problems with the 9m. Using a SK Shapes bar.
What bar do you find best with the foils?

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby tkaraszewski » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:58 pm

MaximumAC wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:43 am
tkaraszewski wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:59 am
For what use? I have a Sonic 3 in 13m and 9m and a VMG2 in 11m. i love the Sonic 3 in 13 but had a bunch of problems with the 9m. Using a SK Shapes bar.
What sort of problems with the 9m? And how do you feel about VMG2 fragility vs the Sonics?

To OP, I have an 18/15/11 Sonic 3 quiver for "race-style" and feel like that's an appropriate spread for my weight (~70-75kg). As an all purpose kite I'd choose the 13, especially at 86kg.
My 9m loves to front stall in strong wind. Get it up around 25 knots, and any gusts can cause a front stall. I've tried every adjustment and it just does not stay flying reliably in 25 knots with any gustiness at all.

I haven't had any trouble with the VMG2 in terms of reliability or fragile-ness, but the kite is comparatively underpowered for it's size compared to similar kites. The 11m might as well be a 9m sonic 3 or R1.

I've actually ordered an R1V4 quiver for my next set of kites.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby mr-markus » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:52 pm

Got me a 9,13 and 18m. just TT riding. Love the 9, but the 13 is a charm too. Thinking of adding an 11m also. (weight is 86kg)
Never had frontstall issues with the 9m. Using a Cabrinha and a 2021 North bar. Flysurfer bars wear out quickly and the line wrapping is a pain in the *ss indeed.

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Re: Sonic 3 11m or 13m?

Postby Ice101 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:06 am

Is the 9m and 13m not a good overlap then?


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