The Hybrid from Flysurfer

[djdojo]

My extensive review is coming soon.

Hi Jason, it would be great to see footage of you flying the 2.5s back-to-back on the beach if you're up for that, even if it's only lighter wind. It could show us a lot about the relative size of window, turning and luffing response, and stall/reverse flying behaviour, etc.

[IWantToFly]

For those who have now been flying both…which hybrid to cover the Peak5 4m range? I’m guessing the 3.5m may not quite be enough as you are all saying the hybrid has a little less grunt. If the 4m is the go-to size for someone, do they need the 5.5m?

[drsurf]

For those who have now been flying both…which hybrid to cover the Peak5 4m range? I’m guessing the 3.5m may not quite be enough as you are all saying the hybrid has a little less grunt. If the 4m is the go-to size for someone, do they need the 5.5m?

I'm 67kg using 990 sq cm & 740sq cm foils and have the Peak5 4m and 3.5m Hybrid. I also have the 5m Peak5 but haven't used it this season as the wind has always been enough for the 4m Peak5. On really windy days over 20 knots I have been using the 2.5m Peak5.

The 4m Peak5 does have a little more grunt than the 3.5m Hybrid, the extra half metre of area matters on a small kite. However the 3.5m Hybrid has more top end, eating into the 2.5m territory. Bear in mind the Hybrid has a shorter bridle length than the Peak5 kites which slightly shortens the power stroke. Longer lines would minimise this difference.

I think for someone heavier than me, the 3.5m & 5.5m Hybrid combo would give you a wider wind range than 5m & 4m Peak5's. There is no downside to the Hybrid that I have experienced apart for the higher cost. They are simple to setup and launch, drift is maybe even better than the Peak due to the new bridles and 3D structure, turning is fast and smooth and they relaunch quickly with ease.

The 4m Peak5 is definitely a go to fun size and perhaps it's a shame Flysurfer did not make the Hybrid in the same size. However I think you would cover most of the 4m Peak5 wind range with the 3.5m Hybrid with a bit more control and fun at the top end

[Adventure Logs]

My extensive review is coming soon.

Hi Jason, it would be great to see footage of you flying the 2.5s back-to-back on the beach if you're up for that, even if it's only lighter wind. It could show us a lot about the relative size of window, turning and luffing response, and stall/reverse flying behaviour, etc.

That's going to be awhile now. I had a Paramotor crash a couple days ago and broke my femur. I'm going to be bed bound now for awhile.

[Gerwinnaar]

My extensive review is coming soon.

Hi Jason, it would be great to see footage of you flying the 2.5s back-to-back on the beach if you're up for that, even if it's only lighter wind. It could show us a lot about the relative size of window, turning and luffing response, and stall/reverse flying behaviour, etc.

That's going to be awhile now. I had a Paramotor crash a couple days ago and broke my femur. I'm going to be bed bound now for awhile.

That’s some bad luck, I hope you recover well!

[djdojo]

All the best for your recovery Jason.

[drsurf]

My extensive review is coming soon.

Hi Jason, it would be great to see footage of you flying the 2.5s back-to-back on the beach if you're up for that, even if it's only lighter wind. It could show us a lot about the relative size of window, turning and luffing response, and stall/reverse flying behaviour, etc.

That's going to be awhile now. I had a Paramotor crash a couple days ago and broke my femur. I'm going to be bed bound now for awhile.

Ouch That's quite an important bone for nearly every fun thing.
Wishing you a fast recovery Jason.

[Strekke]

So to anyone riding Peak 4's, 5's, and Hybrids: if I want a kite that holds its shape better in absolute low end, and totally slack lines, while riding towards it hands-free on a wave, the Hybrid does the job significantly better than any Peak? I already find that my Peak5 6m holds its shape a bit better than my Peak4 5m, despite the fact that I use the 6m in lower winds, but both still often collapse on totally slack lines in their low end. I ride them on a big foil frontwing, in waves, only using the kite to get on the wave and then letting go of the bar and relying only on the power of the wave to keep flying. Very often, I get several seconds of totally slack lines and a sagging bar. It is at these moments that they often collapse/crumble into a little ball in low low winds and totally slack lines, sometimes leading to a swim in. So thinking of replacing my Peak4 5m with a Hybrid 5.5 (same low end?), but would want a significant improvement in drift/rigidity on slack lines for that price...

[drsurf]

So to anyone riding Peak 4's, 5's, and Hybrids: if I want a kite that holds its shape better in absolute low end, and totally slack lines, while riding towards it hands-free on a wave, the Hybrid does the job significantly better than any Peak? I already find that my Peak5 6m holds its shape a bit better than my Peak4 5m, despite the fact that I use the 6m in lower winds, but both still often collapse on totally slack lines in their low end. I ride them on a big foil frontwing, in waves, only using the kite to get on the wave and then letting go of the bar and relying only on the power of the wave to keep flying. Very often, I get several seconds of totally slack lines and a sagging bar. It is at these moments that they often collapse/crumble into a little ball in low low winds and totally slack lines, sometimes leading to a swim in. So thinking of replacing my Peak4 5m with a Hybrid 5.5 (same low end?), but would want a significant improvement in drift/rigidity on slack lines for that price...

Hi Strekke.
In my experience with the 3.5m Hybrid the kite does hold its shape better than the Peak on slack lines. This stands to reason as the kite has a partially inflated structure which gives 3 dimensional rigidity to the kite as well as the kite being virtually the same weight as a comparable Peak.

I like to ride waves/chop/swell as you have stated, though usually on the smaller Peak/Hybrid kites, as we must have more wind and I'm 67kg. However it's still easy slack the lines and with practice control the kite to avoid a swim with a Peak. However the Hybrid gives me confidence to do silly things riding downwind waves 1km offshore as it relaunches quickly and easily

[adiver]

Good evening,

I'm looking for some guidance regarding the windrange of the Flysurfer Hybrid because I read completely different information across different sources. I'm 80kg and ride a Levitaz Shaka S (1200). Right now, I have an Duotone Juice DLAB 13, Neo SLS in 9 and 7. The quiver is great for me in many situations but I'm looking to add some smaller kites and kites that can handle gusts (lake). I kited on the Soul 15 and 10 qm for many years and think the Hybrid would be a great match for me. What do you think would be a good addition to my quiver? For ultra light wind I really like the Juice but for everything let's say more than 10 or 12 knots I'm looking for smaller and agile kites (max. 25 knots).

Do you think with this profile it would make sense to have a 7,5 and a 3,5 or better 5,5 and 3,5? Many thanks for your input!
Adrian