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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby nayy » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:55 pm

Enclume wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:55 pm
Cool video Nayy! I also have the 5.5 and 7.5, using them with 17m lines. Have you experimented a bit with line lengths? Curious to hear feedback from people who have
Hi Enclume,

thx !

a lot of people fly it on short lines.
I only have ozone bars with 23 and 25 meter lines which is much longer than the standard flysurfer bar.
going from 23 to 25 makes a big difference... on short lines you loose a lot of power and lowend.

I cannot imagine using it on short lines, I just need that power.

I only use 23 when I know my 5,5 will be too much on 25 meter lines.

just my 2 cts ;-)

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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby drsurf » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:14 pm

I run the standard 21m Flysurfer bar and lines on all my Hybrid and Peak kites. I have tried shorter lines but found if the wind dropped, the power stroke was too short to get me out of the water easily. In 20 to 30 knot wind I now use the 2.5m Hybrid which has more top end than the 2.5m Peak5 so the 21m lines work fine for my 67kg.

I have been trying the Performance Tuner settings on the Hybrid to see how effective it is in lighter and stronger wind conditions. So far I've only tried changing these settings on the 3.5m Hybrid but it does seem to subtly improve the wind range for the altered setting. Will have to do more testing and try it on the 2.5m.
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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby IWantToFly » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:46 pm

I’ve been running 17m lines on my 2.5, 3.5, and 5.5. I have a set of 5m extensions and should give them a try to compare. I’m not sure I would want to change the 3.5. Slowing down the 2.5 would not matter and it would be interested to see the wind range difference. The 5.5m might be nice to get a little more low end but it might slow it down more than I like. Too many choices to try and compare when I just want to go ride!
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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby nayy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:52 pm

hybrid 5,5m² in 20kn of wind.
Very choppy water.


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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:28 pm

Awesome Nayy :thumb:

A few comments if I may?

Amazing footage especially with the wingfoiler close by - it gives such a great "3D" experience (could also be another kitesurfer/kitefoiler/windsurfer), as otherwise "non 360" camera video can be really limited... (boring is almost what I meant to say)

You ride a 5.5 in 10 knots?

Wasnt it in the high end?

You are average weight, right?

A 3 m2 Peak would be spot on in 20 knots, as 4 m2 too big but one can survive yes.

So quite low power for the Hybrid :roll:

But it has AMAZING drift, really incredible :thumb:

You made a taxi jibe?
Because of a huge lull, or?
As one would expect you to be REALLY powered in 20 knots with a 5.5 as even a 5 m2 LEI kite is quite well powered.

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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby nayy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:25 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:28 pm


Amazing footage especially with the wingfoiler close by - it gives such a great "3D" experience (could also be another kitesurfer/kitefoiler/windsurfer), as otherwise "non 360" camera video can be really limited... (boring is almost what I meant to say)

The cam on my head is a regular action cam (dji osmo4), on the winfoilboard there is a 360 action cam. I think insta360 but don't know the nr. Unfortunately with all types of cam's the chop and the waves always look much smaller than they are

You ride a 5.5 in 10 knots?

I think I can start riding the 7,5 with 10-11 kn for the 5,5 I need a bit more like 13-14kn

Wasnt it in the high end?

when I watch the depower strap about half depowered, so not the high end, 24-25 kn must be possible on the 5,5 but probably not fun anymore. With 25kn i'm on my surfboard and not foiling anymore

You are average weight, right?

With 87 kg (dry) more than avarage I thing but not a heavy weight, should be a little less in comming months ;-)

A 3 m2 Peak would be spot on in 20 knots, as 4 m2 too big but one can survive yes.
I had a peak4 3m² and needed 18-19 kn to get it going but 20-21 to be comfortable with the peak4 3


So quite low power for the Hybrid :roll:

yes, les power... but to be honest I don't mind and don't regret my change from peaks to hybrids, maybe it's just my riding style. I'm not an agressive rider. I'm very happy with my hybrids, especially when i crash them in cold water

But it has AMAZING drift, really incredible :thumb:
Yes the drift is insane, best kite ever

You made a taxi jibe?
Because of a huge lull, or?
i'm struggling to swap feet on the foil. I'm just touching the water to change feet stance for a few seconds. Every season i'm improving and hope to nail the gibe completely on the foil one day or the other ;-)

As one would expect you to be REALLY powered in 20 knots with a 5.5 as even a 5 m2 LEI kite is quite well powered.

power was good, at the end you can see that the wind is dropping

8) Peter

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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:43 pm

Thanks Nayy :thumb:

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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby Adventure Logs » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:53 am

Got a quick edit done of a Hybrid 2.5m session I did last month down here in SPI. I was VERY underpowered...around 20kts and decreasing. I would say this is the ultimate low end for me on this size and I wasn't able to stay upwind. Good video though to see how it handles and what works/doesn't work when looping to get up on foil.

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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:53 pm

It seems the 2.5 and 3.5 are excellent, and have the "Peak" quailities somewhat intact in terms of acceleration and spike?

And then from 5.5 and up it goes down the drain abruptly, just like Peaks over 6 m2, no fun...

Makes sense :wink:

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Re: The Hybrid from Flysurfer

Postby Slappysan » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:16 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:28 pm
A 3 m2 Peak would be spot on in 20 knots, as 4 m2 too big but one can survive yes.
I find my 5m Peak4 to be quite well behaved in 20 knots, so my range on it is 8-20 knots @ 72 kg.


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