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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:10 pm

i thought the camera was on at that moment but it was not.

The relaunch happened "gently" and was quite standard from the last position on the film:
It was a bit weired (kite stayed some time half relaunched (at centre of the kite) and half glued to the water (both tips, while no really water inside) , certainly because it wasexactlyvthe wind limit to relaunch. but it behaved well, remained stable enough to "wait for a ponctual gust of 5 knots, front lines in hand.

I was happy to get the kite back to shore, dry...
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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:31 pm

weighted on a professional scale: 3.150kg (for the 15m)

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby TritonFoils » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:18 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:31 pm
weighted on a professional scale: 3.150kg (for the 15m)
That is about 400 or so grams more than a FS Soul v2 which albeit has lighter canopy material than v1. Anyone know what the v1 soul weighs?
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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby funalex » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:46 pm

My kestrel 10m weight 2,180 kg... if it can satisfy curiosity

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Smeagle » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:07 am

funalex wrote: My kestrel 10m weight 2,180 kg... if it can satisfy curiosity
Regis-de-giens wrote: weighted on a professional scale: 3.150kg (for the 15m)
Hmm...

not as light as I expected, didn't FunAlex say it's a new "Ultralight" cloth?

It's around ~210g/m², that's more than any other Pansh Kite I had. Genesis, Hawk, Aurora, A15, all of them are lighter.
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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Smeagle » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:16 pm

Ah, I found my document...
Screenshot 2023-02-01 121433.jpg
These are the weights of kites I had. Many Pansh, a few others. Few of these are manufacture's numbers, but most I weighted myself.

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby SolarSet » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:34 pm

TritonFoils wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:18 pm

That is about 400 or so grams more than a FS Soul v2 which albeit has lighter canopy material than v1. Anyone know what the v1 soul weighs?
Soul V2 has heavier canopy material than V1 as it suppose to be durable, 33g/m2 vs old 32g/m2



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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby nixmatters » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:59 pm

SolarSet wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:34 pm
TritonFoils wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:18 pm

That is about 400 or so grams more than a FS Soul v2 which albeit has lighter canopy material than v1. Anyone know what the v1 soul weighs?
Soul V2 has heavier canopy material than V1 as it suppose to be durable, 33g/m2 vs old 32g/m2


heavier? 1 gram here is well within the acceptable tolerance

I thought the ram-air kites are lighter. My 13m 3strut Contra weighs less thatn the 15m Kestrel.
Sure, I know the difference between a 15m flat arc ramair and a 13m LEI

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby lederhosen » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:01 pm

Smeagle wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:07 am
funalex wrote: My kestrel 10m weight 2,180 kg... if it can satisfy curiosity
Regis-de-giens wrote: weighted on a professional scale: 3.150kg (for the 15m)
Hmm...

not as light as I expected, didn't FunAlex say it's a new "Ultralight" cloth?

It's around ~210g/m², that's more than any other Pansh Kite I had. Genesis, Hawk, Aurora, A15, all of them are lighter.
It looks like kites get heavier by size if they are racier (higher aspect ratio, flatter profile). I used to have a 10.5m JN Randas (bubble shaped snow kite) that was made of heavy cloth and thick bridles and weighed 2kg.

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby downunder » Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:17 pm

Smeagle wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:07 am
funalex wrote: My kestrel 10m weight 2,180 kg... if it can satisfy curiosity
Regis-de-giens wrote: weighted on a professional scale: 3.150kg (for the 15m)
Hmm...

not as light as I expected, didn't FunAlex say it's a new "Ultralight" cloth?

It's around ~210g/m², that's more than any other Pansh Kite I had. Genesis, Hawk, Aurora, A15, all of them are lighter.
Sure, but none of this kites have semi rigid internal ribs.
They do weight something. Plus, the bridles are not kevlar.


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