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Pansh Kestrel, high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:46 pm

Here is the new "Kestrel " foilkite.
From same designer as the recently designed Hawk which is a succes .... .
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https://panshkite.com/index.php?gOo=goo ... oductname=

Ratio of 6.4, so free-race kite, with a prononced arch to improve loops and agility according to its designer....at reasonnable price !

I would like to know the weight for a 15m2, but I think i'll order one to test.... :-).

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:58 pm

I just ordered mine.... Now i'll sell my gin spirit 15m

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Bille » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:03 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:46 pm
Here is the new "Kestrel " foilkite.
...
https://panshkite.com/index.php?gOo=goo ... oductname=
...
I would like to know the weight for a 15m2, but I think i'll order one to test.... :-).
What size do I need for TT :
I'm 90-kg , and will use this kite in 25kt winds ; but 15m2 , sounds Big ?
I normally use a 13m2 Ozone Edge for those conditions, (11 to 25kt) .

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:29 pm

Apparently for TT it needs some wind and depower is huge, so if you like riding powered,15m should be fine. But i have not tested yer

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Bille » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:15 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:29 pm
... But i have not tested yer
How much do you weigh Regis ?
It will help me decide if maybe the 12m is the one
I need ; when it becomes available .

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:47 pm

My weight is 61 kg. From a friend early tester of the 6m, it is not a very powerful kite, a bit less than soul for example. So if hesitating between two sizes, i would vote for the largest. Specially for TT use apparently.
Knowing that wind range and high end is large on the Kestrel

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Matty V » Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:26 am

What have they thrown through the photocopier this week..

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:34 am

You think it is a copy ? Come-on , look at the shape. I see no foilkite with such a combination of arch and high Aspect Ratio.

And i know the designer, Funalex if you know him. Run his own kite advice company for decades, very open to find/ discuss new ideas and innovation, and not the kind of guy liking copying, while very happy to developp a kite "for every budget".

It seems to gather, on the contrary, a good innovation bundle on the paper (arch, z bridle design, speed system with this "booster" third pulley, 3-2 clam system to set the mixer test, ...)
... from what i know.

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby downunder » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:32 am

Even if a clone, have no issue with that. But, it is not that cheap as A15

What I see, it does not have a TE webbing like FlySurfer, which means a lot of sand in it.

And to me, that is a no go. My Ozones are full of sand in TE. Bugger to get rid off. Can be so full of sand that it is noticable.

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Re: Pansh Kestrel, new high performance kite

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:56 pm

downunder wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:32 am
Even if a clone, have no issue with that. But, it is not that cheap as A15

What I see, it does not have a TE webbing like FlySurfer, which means a lot of sand in it.

And to me, that is a no go. My Ozones are full of sand in TE. Bugger to get rid off. Can be so full of sand that it is noticable.
Moreover Pansh is cheaper than others so it could be logical that they make less designs ; but despite this, they do design and innovate on this kite ! like they did on A15 + Genesis + Hawk at least that I know (never tested and looked at the Aeolus) , which none was a copy of existing kite from what I know; maybe only the Aurora was close to the speed 3 and 4, but looking at foilkite market at this moment, there was no others brand really innovating and so designs were kite "standards" before real application on hydrofoil ; hydrofoil launched all the brands on foilkite market and boosted R&D and designs; Pansh and others ...

I am not a Pansh fan, just a user and I paid all my Pansh (7 up to now) the full price (even if they have uses my videos without asking permission which I found not very polite...)

Now back to your "Trailing edge webbing" ; what do you mean exactly ? internal holes along the trailing edge to allow for water and dust circulation and exit through the 2 side purge vents " ? Yes , Kestrel has this kind of "vent system" by circulation through the intercells cloth at the trailing edge; Pansh mentions it in the webpage and Funalex has just confirmed to me.

It also seem to have plastic battens to keep the LE in form and gain in depower and performance.


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