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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby alekbelia » Fri May 19, 2023 9:29 pm

The wind in the afternoon was 8-9-10 knots. I used my largest size kite - 9 sq.m.
In the video there are 2-3 jibes performed with the already cited technique.
At 7 knots it is better not to use extended lines. Maneuvers with them become extremely difficult.

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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri May 19, 2023 9:38 pm

well done . is it the peak hybrid rebranded ?
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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby alekbelia » Fri May 19, 2023 9:55 pm

It's Windmaster Click 9 sqm. Somewhere between Peak4 and Peak5.

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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby Turbaani » Fri May 19, 2023 10:37 pm

I kite mainly in light wind, and sometimes stupid light wind. I have built a habit to downloop kite everytime when gybing. In ultra light wind I'd say its necessary. But I am using 1strut LEI kite so it can be different. I just can't have a moment where there is no board speed to keep the momentum going.

If you are not familiar with downloops, learning them will boost your skill alot. Unless its somehow not how singleskin work. Try to keep kite powered through the jibe and not get a yank + backstall after.
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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby AndersP » Sat May 20, 2023 9:03 am

It is very easy to to learn and train downloops on land in lightwind.

If you keep the kite high and do a tight turn it will generate a low-power loop. It will help having line tension without a powerspike.

The wider the loop the more power, kitespeed, line tension and power you get from it.

I always do big downloops in light wind to get maximum power and speed to stay on the foil.
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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sat May 20, 2023 11:27 am

AndersP wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 9:03 am
It is very easy to to learn and train downloops on land in lightwind.

If you keep the kite high and do a tight turn it will generate a low-power loop.
For the beginners fearing loops I have trained, I advise them to do the first loop on the beach , light to medium winds of course , by pulling the pre-line above the floater during the complete 360 then release completely by opening the hand ; this is a way to get a extremely short loop , very high in the window + no power at all + this specific (and different) movement of the hand prevents them to release the bar during the loop, at the worse moment, by focussing them on this new move of the hand + even if they tention the arm by fear, the kite will pursue its rotation up to their opening of the hand.

Then a loop with full bar pull without pre-lines , then several normal loop still on the beach ; then do exactly the same with the board on the feet in water, but without trying to water start ; then the water stat is natural, and then the loop during the ride is natural if they go slow at the first attempts
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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby Trent hink » Sat May 20, 2023 11:18 pm

Peak4 11 meter downloops just fine, and it's my preferred method for gybing when underpowered.

The trick is to have some speed but still pointing upwind, down loop the kite and turn the hydrofoil hard just before the kite really starts to pull.

Especially if underpowered, you want to be carrying some speed upwind before you initiate the turn.

If you have enough speed and control to have the kite accelerate in the new direction through the center of the wind window just after you have completed the turn, you're golden.

Sheet in to turn the kite hard, sheet out to make it accelerate towards the edge of the wind window when it pulls hard, but keep steering the kite!

At this point, if you haven't already committed to turning your hydrofoil, the kite will accelerate you downwind, you'll run out of apparent wind, and the kite won't turn or have any power.

I have no experience with the 13, but the 11 can just about turn on a dime if you backstall it just a bit...

But to be efficient underpowered, you want use both the kite and the hydrofoil aggressively to stay powered, and it's actually a lot of work!
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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby derek440 » Thu May 25, 2023 2:21 am

yeah downloop gybe is the go when the wind is light and timing is the key, here is a video of me doing some light wind gybes (starting about half way through the video) with a 10m hybrid kite and 15m lines (note the bar is 60cm - you need a big bar for your 13m and/or pulling the leader if its not coming through fast enough)
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Re: Making jibe turns in very light wind

Postby bigtone667 » Thu May 25, 2023 5:16 am

That windmaster turns really really well.
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