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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Hardwater Kiter » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:52 pm

Stall handles make landing foils in high winds painless and easy. Especially in high winds.

Even more so on the Peak. De-trim, bar completely out, pull stall and you can land directly in the window if needed.

Anchor the handle, disengage from the system, go grab your kite.

In extreme situations,, bring to the edge, use the stall handle and stall it out. It will drift back and slide towards the center of the window but remain in deep stall.

At that point I reel in a front line and flag out.

Conversely, if the wind is a steady direction, you can successfully land it leading edge down. You can do it ugly by just letting the bar out and whipping it in (I don't really recommend but it usually doesn't cause any harm) or you can bring it across the window, slow it down, dip a tip and roll it in. Once leading edge down as long as you don't tension the rear lines, causing roll over or reverse launch it will stay in position.

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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Peter_Frank » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:27 pm

I often land like joriws, chrashlanding to one side, if a bit of grass it works even better as no air inside and grass will keep it from sliding, it might taco but never fly up.

This landing only works really well with Peaks or other single skin kites - hybrid kites cant be landed this easily at all.

Backstalling a 3 or 4 m2 Peak kite at their top end can be dangerous - you wont get lifted no, but the immense peak pull you get is risky, as you can not control sheeting very precisely in the upper end, having full sheeting range on a few centimeters only.

Use a camera mount often, so always hotlaunch - but after the session it is usually a side "soft" chrashlanding - works great.

Not so with double skin kites or hybrid kites, almost needs to be backed down in order to not fly away :rollgrin:

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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby nothing2seehere » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:18 pm

I thought the peak 4 will sit on a wing tip like an LEI? Why not do a tether landing?

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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Herman » Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:28 pm

^^Good point. The first part of the vid with the hybrid is probably a reasonable demonstration of how the kite would behave during a tether landing if it becomes unpinned, and it would eventually with a shift of some sort. Even if it crumpled and rolled into the flying position a Peak would not pull that hard if it flew up fully sheeted out, as would be the case as long as nothing snagged. Something to trial in a big open space to ensure that it is really a practical proposition?
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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Smeagle » Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:16 pm

Janus wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:13 pm
Unassisted and windy; I just put my foil at the landing spot and land the kite on it so that some outer bridle lines get stuck on it.
Hmm, too me that sounds, as you risk damaging both kite and foil ;)

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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Hardwater Kiter » Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:36 pm

nothing2seehere wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:18 pm
I thought the peak 4 will sit on a wing tip like an LEI? Why not do a tether landing?


It will. But not ideal in high winds and definitely not where winds can be potentially shifty and unstable. ;-)

This said, in higher winds if you bring the kite to the position illustrated here, pull the stall handle in and let it drift back into the window in deep stall it is easy to then either anchor by the stall handle or flag out by yarding in a front line.

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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Janus » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:09 pm

Smeagle wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:16 pm
Janus wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:13 pm
Unassisted and windy; I just put my foil at the landing spot and land the kite on it so that some outer bridle lines get stuck on it.
Hmm, too me that sounds, as you risk damaging both kite and foil ;)
No it isn't and we are taking about Peaks here 8)
There is also a method of sticking a pole with bal on top (something not sharp) in the ground pointing a bit upwind and then land the kite outer briddle in it, just let it hook in and the flag it out.
I never worry about landing a Peak, never damaged it with landing. it's done carefully, no dumb dumping action :lol:
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Re: Peak 4 landing @ top end LE or TE down

Postby Hardwater Kiter » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:33 pm

Another option when the wind is steady...



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