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Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby Kiteboarding Uruguay » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:04 am

Hey forum friends,

I am trying to progress my kiteloops and had started jumping left and trying to loop.

In this video it was 20ish knots and I was using a 7m kite (so I was a little under powered).

Is my reason for not landing that the kite is small, or because I was not pushing the bar out on the way down, or both? Or something else??

I'd welcome any expert tips if you have them!

Thanks in advance,

Nick

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Re: WHY CAN'T I LAND MY KITE LOOPS?

Postby Ice101 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:19 am

How high were you jumping? Over 7m?
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Re: WHY CAN'T I LAND MY KITE LOOPS?

Postby Kiteboarding Uruguay » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:28 am

I would think I was jumping at around 7-9 meters as thats fairly typical for me in those conditions.

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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby jespin4845 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:47 am

So for kite loops I do a different style jump, more vertical

Let’s go left, where if I was going for a big air/hang time jump I would send the kite/pop at like 1130

For a kite loop I send the kite at 1230 and pop hard! Then depending on how strong the wind is depends on the timing of the loop, lighter wind right away, 30/40 knots wait till the apex which might be 2-3 seconds later
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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby 1234567Simon » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:05 am

Board not pointing downwind on landing?
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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby jespin4845 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:58 am

Board pointing directly downwind

Need a heli loop behind you to slow down on the big ones
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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby Adventure Logs » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:08 pm

^^^ what he said. You need to add a down loop in there right before you land. Also you could try to slow the rotation down a little but be prepared for more power. Also need to land with your board more pointed downwind. Enjoy, I’ve been down now for about two weeks with a knee injury after looping my Sonic3 11m.
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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby Kiteboarding Uruguay » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:20 pm

Thanks for the advice Jason!

Hope you are back on the water again soon.

When are you getting back down here?

I just got invited for my vaccination this morning, so hopefully Uruguay will have all of this behind us sooner rather than later.

All the best!

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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby Blackened » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:44 am

Kiteboarding Uruguay wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:04 am
Hey forum friends,

I am trying to progress my kiteloops and had started jumping left and trying to loop.

In this video it was 20ish knots and I was using a 7m kite (so I was a little under powered).

Is my reason for not landing that the kite is small, or because I was not pushing the bar out on the way down, or both? Or something else??

I'd welcome any expert tips if you have them!

Thanks in advance,

Nick
Good progress fella :).

For me there are only two things:
1. Jump higher - none of these jumps are over 5m. It may be scary pulling a bigger loop, but it's much safer and easier.
2. Once the kite comes around and starts climbing, dump the bar to let the kite recover to catch you.

You looked underpowered. A 9m in those conditions would've been a better learning experience.

Loops:
30s - Kite stayed off to the left and pulled you off balance. Probably could've saved it had you looped again. Need more height.
46s - More height but might've been able to save it had you let the bar out
56s - tried to steer out slightly too early. Let the bar out a fraction of a second longer, then steer hard
1.20 - same as 46s
1.33 - not quite high enough, could've saved if you landed board downwind
1.38 - no where near high enough - I'd be surprised if this was much over 2m.
2.00 - not high enough. Good technique, just let the bar out

Currently, you're not aiming downwind enough because you're bracing for the impact. It's exactly the same thing I did when I started. Landing pointed downwind will come naturally. I still do the same type of crash when I mistime a launch on a lightwind day. The one at 56s was done really well - you just needed to release the bar a fraction longer for a catch, then recovery loop to keep the lines tight to stop a Hindenburg.

Personally, I like to overfly the kite slightly to get a little more lift at the end. In a left foot (regular) jump, I end the loop at 12, let it recover to 1230 for the catch, then bring it back overhead for that little lift and soft touchdown. It also removes any horizontal motion I didn't scrub off into the jump before takeoff. I almost always ride away in a transition rather than continuing in the same direction because of this. Almost everyone I ride with does the same. Whichever way that second loop is going to finish, that's the way you're riding out of it.
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Re: Why can't I land my kiteloops?

Postby joandani » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:36 am

Just learn first how to land normal high jumps with a downloop, and after throw kiteloops.
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