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New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby Marcel Surf Life » Mon May 10, 2021 5:45 pm

Hey folks,

a nice preview of the new Naish Torque Bar 2 with a unique modular loop system:
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby Dirk » Wed May 12, 2021 7:41 am

Mine is waiting at home. Very curious how it compares to the previous Torque bar.
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby BarraGrande » Wed May 12, 2021 8:13 am

I am a bit dissapointed that they did not manage to run the safety line through the PU. just does not look very polished compared to others.
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby Marcel Surf Life » Wed May 12, 2021 8:45 am

BarraGrande wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 8:13 am
I am a bit dissapointed that they did not manage to run the safety line through the PU. just does not look very polished compared to others.
I fully agree :thumb:

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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby nothing2seehere » Wed May 12, 2021 10:00 am

I was all for buying into this concept until........he put the loop in the wrong way and it didn't clip in. At which point my cynical brain kicked into overdrive and I could see all the potential problems that this creates

e.g. its windy and I trigger the QR in deep water. I pull in to reset it but its windy so there's still some pull in the kite. At the point I get to the bar, I have to decide if I try and pull the bar down to my waist where my chicken loop is to attach it, or do I have to hold the safety line, and the bar and then reach down and use two hands to unclip the chicken loop and hope I don't drop it?

Be good to hear some real world reviews though. I'm sure I'm imagining more problems that don't really exist
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby evan » Wed May 12, 2021 10:34 am

nothing2seehere wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 10:00 am
I was all for buying into this concept until........he put the loop in the wrong way and it didn't clip in. At which point my cynical brain kicked into overdrive and I could see all the potential problems that this creates

e.g. its windy and I trigger the QR in deep water. I pull in to reset it but its windy so there's still some pull in the kite. At the point I get to the bar, I have to decide if I try and pull the bar down to my waist where my chicken loop is to attach it, or do I have to hold the safety line, and the bar and then reach down and use two hands to unclip the chicken loop and hope I don't drop it?

Be good to hear some real world reviews though. I'm sure I'm imagining more problems that don't really exist
The chance of losing the entire loop after hitting the QR is indeed there. I am a bit surprised to see Naish and Cabrinha going this route again as losing your chickenloop to the waves was a big complaint to these style chickenloops back in the days. But it was more common to ride unhooked in those days so you had more chance of losing the loop.
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby evan » Thu May 13, 2021 10:02 am

Got my hands on the new Naish bar to shorten the lines.

First impression is that the QR housing is HUGE, can barely fit my tiny hands around it. Mechanism itself looks good and well designed, although the gaps inside are very thight.. Wonder if is is still so smooth with some sand inside.


But I can't get my head around those lines. Powerline ends have just a 6cm bury on the splice with just the bare line to connect to the kite pigtails. No reinforcement at all. you almost think they forgot to add pigtails like they did on the back lines. I highly recommend to add some pigtails there, or even better let someone do a proper splicing job on those power lines!
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby Herman » Thu May 13, 2021 10:17 am

From the photo it looks like they are using a ~65mm stitched bury plus a taper for the centre flying lines. Some would regard this as not a full bury, my bet is that it will still work fine with the friction of a larkshead but time will tell. Also no Brummell, but that is fine by me as I do not use a Brummell In flying lines either.
Having said that, for me, I prefer Evan’s philosophy regarding long term viability.
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby evan » Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 am

Ok, did a strength test on the power line.

It did fail at the loop on only 262kgf, surprisingly not on the bury but the unprotected larks head.
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Re: New Naish Bar with a unique modular loop system

Postby evan » Thu May 13, 2021 10:34 am

Herman wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 10:17 am
From the photo it looks like they are using a ~65mm stitched bury plus a taper for the centre flying lines. Some would regard this as not a full bury, my bet it will still work fine with the friction of a larkshead but time will tell. Also no Brummell.
Having said that, for me, I prefer Evan’s philosophy regarding long term viability.
No taper, just a straight cut like all asian factories do...
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