I guess part of the appeal is that its really hard, but this was one of those sessions that kicked my ass, and made me feel like I was getting worse
You've got to train your body to react instinctively to little changes in the water pressure around the foil. Micro-adjustments. Practice. It's just time on the water. Try to be very flexible with your knees to absorb little bumps & water turbulence. And ... of course, keep your weight forward as you start to accelerate on swell.
Yeah, it’s like skiing, get that weight out over the front as you come down the other side. Nerve wracking at first, but helps keep the foil in the water. The hardest lessons are the ones that sink in the mostFlyboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:43 amYou've got to train your body to react instinctively to little changes in the water pressure around the foil. Micro-adjustments. Practice. It's just time on the water. Try to be very flexible with your knees to absorb little bumps & water turbulence. And ... of course, keep your weight forward as you start to accelerate on swell.
Yes - I've often thought it's like skiing: the natural instinct in skiing is to lean away from a steep slope rather than lean into the slope. Part of the problem with foiling is it goes against what you've learned on a TT & SB where you carve using the rear part of the rail more. When you're foiling you've got to carve by keeping your weight over the front wing. When the foil pops out of the water like it does at a couple of points in your video, it's because you've allowed your weight to get too far back. Keep your weight forward & bend your knees to absorb any bumps/turbulence. It will come with time on the water ...bkkite wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:31 pmYeah, it’s like skiing, get that weight out over the front as you come down the other side. Nerve wracking at first, but helps keep the foil in the water. The hardest lessons are the ones that sink in the mostFlyboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:43 amYou've got to train your body to react instinctively to little changes in the water pressure around the foil. Micro-adjustments. Practice. It's just time on the water. Try to be very flexible with your knees to absorb little bumps & water turbulence. And ... of course, keep your weight forward as you start to accelerate on swell.
Yeah, I definitely didn't get the "ride across it for ever" thing . How do you find the right angle to catch it and ride with it? I guess some of the time, I have to slow down and depower the kite too, to let the wave carry me a bit?Kamikuza wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:50 amIf it ain't broke, don't fix it. Conversely, if it ain't working, try something different.
Ride across the swell, like you're a surfer in a barrel.
With foiling, the "barrel" is now under the surface, so you're foiling out the front of the wave because as you ride down that barrel and gain speed, you're get pushed ahead of the wave. If you get the foil too deep, it can actually push you right down and suck your board into the water. If you ride across it, you can sit on it ... forever. Or cut back and forth like a surfer, making erm top and bottom turns. I don't know the lingo.
So you'll have to be dynamic with your balance, as the pull from kite comes and goes, and the trim of the board changes constantly as you ride through the submarine barrels.
I'm also going to say I think your feet are too narrow, and if you have to ride so far forward, maybe the wing is too big for you. It's my feeling that having a wider base and being able to use your knees like shock absorbers, to let the board move under you and trim the pitch without loading it up till you want it, is a good way to get to grips with enjoying swell and speed with which you need to trim the board...
But yeah, it's a spanking. You'll love the days when you think you got it dialed then ride right out the front of a decent swell with the mast going fully out of the water and then getting slammed
Depends on the swell conditions... On the lake, ours tend to peter out quickly, or are narrow, so there can't be ridden for ages.bkkite wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:05 amYeah, I definitely didn't get the "ride across it for ever" thing . How do you find the right angle to catch it and ride with it? I guess some of the time, I have to slow down and depower the kite too, to let the wave carry me a bit?Kamikuza wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:50 amIf it ain't broke, don't fix it. Conversely, if it ain't working, try something different.
Ride across the swell, like you're a surfer in a barrel.
With foiling, the "barrel" is now under the surface, so you're foiling out the front of the wave because as you ride down that barrel and gain speed, you're get pushed ahead of the wave. If you get the foil too deep, it can actually push you right down and suck your board into the water. If you ride across it, you can sit on it ... forever. Or cut back and forth like a surfer, making erm top and bottom turns. I don't know the lingo.
So you'll have to be dynamic with your balance, as the pull from kite comes and goes, and the trim of the board changes constantly as you ride through the submarine barrels.
I'm also going to say I think your feet are too narrow, and if you have to ride so far forward, maybe the wing is too big for you. It's my feeling that having a wider base and being able to use your knees like shock absorbers, to let the board move under you and trim the pitch without loading it up till you want it, is a good way to get to grips with enjoying swell and speed with which you need to trim the board...
But yeah, it's a spanking. You'll love the days when you think you got it dialed then ride right out the front of a decent swell with the mast going fully out of the water and then getting slammed
I've got a single strut kite that drifts well, so I'll have to work on that more. I did a few top and bottom turns following the swell down the line, I just have to get better and turning more sharplyKamikuza wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:29 amDepends on the swell conditions... On the lake, ours tend to peter out quickly, or are narrow, so there can't be ridden for ages.bkkite wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:05 amYeah, I definitely didn't get the "ride across it for ever" thing . How do you find the right angle to catch it and ride with it? I guess some of the time, I have to slow down and depower the kite too, to let the wave carry me a bit?Kamikuza wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:50 amIf it ain't broke, don't fix it. Conversely, if it ain't working, try something different.
Ride across the swell, like you're a surfer in a barrel.
With foiling, the "barrel" is now under the surface, so you're foiling out the front of the wave because as you ride down that barrel and gain speed, you're get pushed ahead of the wave. If you get the foil too deep, it can actually push you right down and suck your board into the water. If you ride across it, you can sit on it ... forever. Or cut back and forth like a surfer, making erm top and bottom turns. I don't know the lingo.
So you'll have to be dynamic with your balance, as the pull from kite comes and goes, and the trim of the board changes constantly as you ride through the submarine barrels.
I'm also going to say I think your feet are too narrow, and if you have to ride so far forward, maybe the wing is too big for you. It's my feeling that having a wider base and being able to use your knees like shock absorbers, to let the board move under you and trim the pitch without loading it up till you want it, is a good way to get to grips with enjoying swell and speed with which you need to trim the board...
But yeah, it's a spanking. You'll love the days when you think you got it dialed then ride right out the front of a decent swell with the mast going fully out of the water and then getting slammed
And straight lines are boring, so I'm forever trying to cut top n bottom, or if the swell is narrowing then even back n forth. I like the wave kites for this, for drift and slack line response.
Whatever speed works ... works you don't want to go in too fast if you're worried you'll pick up speed and warp right off into the distance
That's where the size of the kite comes into play, or rather how much power you have. It can pull you off your line or you waste energy fighting against it.