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How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby Toby » Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:53 pm

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby Havre » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:08 pm

That is a very good video.

More or less explains all the mistakes I have done through the years :lol:

a) Loading too long
b) Swinging the kite from too low
c) Not learning how to first pop before starting to jump (my "jumps" for so long was just pulling the bar floating 1m up downwind :lol: )

And yeah - timing is almost everything. That is more difficult to practice - just comes with a million repetitions I guess. I still "overthink" the timing quite often - even if I know my best jumps are the ones where I just jump (The Inner Game of Tennis book explains why it is like that really well).

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:44 am

Miles and miles of flat water don't hurt either.
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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby SolarSet » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:19 pm

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Miles and miles of flat water don't hurt either.
yeah that was my thought as well, easy to give people tips how to jump high when you ride on silk smooth water.
This tip about releasing edge to speed up and edge again I think it's bollocks (bullshit for US ppl).

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby FLandOBX » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:44 pm

Great video, Evan. :thumb: Tips in Part 2 are particularly useful (heli-loops, guiding flight with kite movement, etc.). Thanks for posting.

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby Havre » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:46 pm

SolarSet wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:19 pm
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Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:44 am
Miles and miles of flat water don't hurt either.
yeah that was my thought as well, easy to give people tips how to jump high when you ride on silk smooth water.
This tip about releasing edge to speed up and edge again I think it's bollocks (bullshit for US ppl).
I would tend to agree. It seems like a bit of an illusion. He speaks about it so "scientifically", but I'm not sure if it is true.

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby FLandOBX » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:04 pm

SolarSet wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:19 pm
Kamikuza wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:44 am
Miles and miles of flat water don't hurt either.
yeah that was my thought as well, easy to give people tips how to jump high when you ride on silk smooth water.
This tip about releasing edge to speed up and edge again I think it's bollocks (bullshit for US ppl).
And it's even easier to sit in front of a keyboard and critique. Eagerly awaiting big air videos from you guys...... :thumb:

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby Havre » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:48 pm

That isn't so interesting. The best teachers in most sports haven't been the best players or athletes themselves.

Is it wrong? Do you believe releasing the edge has a benefit - and if so why? Honest question. I can only go by my own feel - which hardly is a perfect way to evaluate if something works or not. So I'm open to be convinced that I'm wrong.

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby edt » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:02 pm

Excellent! This is the first time someone has properly explained the "little hop" that all pros do before a wakestyle trick and most of them also do before a boost. Thanks for explaining this.

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Re: How to Jump bigger - Part I

Postby jedi1 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:37 pm

There's a longer explanation here I am not quite convinced by either of those though.

What Evan says in the video seems true to me, that by doing the hop you would lose some line tension and get the kite deeper to the wind window. That to me seems though just the opposite of what a person would want to do.

Mike's explanation as far as I remember was different. His reasoning as far as I understand was to just change the board angle to a more vertical one when up in the air, when it is easier to do. To me this makes more sense, though I am not a 100% sure if one wouldn't jump higher by keeping the edge harder while in the water. This of course comes down to the capability of doing so.

It'd be great to hear a couple of other opinions on what is the exact reason to "do the hop".


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