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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby mike dubs » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:25 am

PS if you look at the Naish video of them jumping it, it hardly deforms under the strain.

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby Dave K » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 am

mike dubs wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:25 am
PS if you look at the Naish video of them jumping it, it hardly deforms under the strain.
Quite a contrast to the V1 Naish wing that was a one-size-fits-all floppy noodle....The sport/technology is progressing quickly :D

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby dangavere » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:47 pm

Hello All just to set the record straight on a few comments:
1. The new Echo wing CAN be used with the existing v1 foil wing boom up to size 5m. The 6 and 7 will require the new boom which is much longer.
2. Echo WIngs have been delayed for USA Delivery. The factory where they are made is still shut down and the Echo order is sitting there as we missed the shipping window by only a few days:(
I have no information on ETA atm, and will report here when I do. I have also heard that air freight costs have gone up substantially and this could cause further delays if we have to ship them via container ship... 4-6 weeks once they have actually left the port which they have not yet.
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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby windmaker » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:08 am

Dave K wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 am
mike dubs wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:25 am
PS if you look at the Naish video of them jumping it, it hardly deforms under the strain.
Quite a contrast to the V1 Naish wing that was a one-size-fits-all floppy noodle....The sport/technology is progressing quickly :D
Wouldn't some deformation be desirable? A flexible wing should give a bigger wind range and allow the wind to spill out in gusts. Windsurfing sails work this way.

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby gmb13 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:03 pm

windmaker wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:08 am
Dave K wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 am
mike dubs wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:25 am
PS if you look at the Naish video of them jumping it, it hardly deforms under the strain.
Quite a contrast to the V1 Naish wing that was a one-size-fits-all floppy noodle....The sport/technology is progressing quickly :D
Wouldn't some deformation be desirable? A flexible wing should give a bigger wind range and allow the wind to spill out in gusts. Windsurfing sails work this way.
Windsurf wings deform in a controlled manner eg. Loose Leach at the top of the sail. The flex in the Naish (and a lot of other outdated wing designs) is not controlled. It just flexes and lets the power out of the wing when you pump it hard. Basically it dumps out the power at the critical point where you really need it to pull. I do have to say that the V1 Naish was not the works for this, I would describe it as medium flex. There are wings out there which are much more flexible and just don't work in light wind, and also flex when you try to go hard into the wind and drop you off the back of the board.

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby bigtone667 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:55 pm

gmb13 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:03 pm
windmaker wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:08 am
Dave K wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 am

Quite a contrast to the V1 Naish wing that was a one-size-fits-all floppy noodle....The sport/technology is progressing quickly :D
Wouldn't some deformation be desirable? A flexible wing should give a bigger wind range and allow the wind to spill out in gusts. Windsurfing sails work this way.
Windsurf wings deform in a controlled manner eg. Loose Leach at the top of the sail. The flex in the Naish (and a lot of other outdated wing designs) is not controlled. It just flexes and lets the power out of the wing when you pump it hard. Basically it dumps out the power at the critical point where you really need it to pull. I do have to say that the V1 Naish was not the works for this, I would describe it as medium flex. There are wings out there which are much more flexible and just don't work in light wind, and also flex when you try to go hard into the wind and drop you off the back of the board.

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As a heavier individual, the minimal flex that the Duotone and Ozone WASP (and original 13PSI Naish Wing) had, really contributed to great power delivery when pumping onto the wing.

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby windmaker » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:59 am

I suppose rider weight is also critical.

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby jaros » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:40 am

gmb13 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:03 pm
There are wings out there which are much more flexible and just don't work in light wind, and also flex when you try to go hard into the wind and drop you off the back of the board.
Could you name them please?
Thanks!

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Re: The Duotone Wing

Postby gmb13 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:04 am

jaros wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:40 am
gmb13 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:03 pm
There are wings out there which are much more flexible and just don't work in light wind, and also flex when you try to go hard into the wind and drop you off the back of the board.
Could you name them please?
Thanks!
I am not going to do that. It is not my place to shame brands on this forum.

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