For sure, similar size wings/kites do not produce the same power. The reason is pretty simple. A "parked" kite and a parked wing are technically at ground zero when it comes to their pull, but the wing is actually even less because it is lower to the ground, although, the difference isn't that big for all intents and purposes. However, the pilot, being 100' (or so) from the kite can send that kite from one side of the sky to another, dramatically increasing the speed of the kite, hence the relative speed to the wind, which is what creates the massive differences in pull that the wing cannot muster. We use that "lunge" of power to get up on the foil, then park the kite in the sky to reduce its pull. However, when hull speed begins to increase the pull of the kite and the lift from the foil work interchangeably. The benefit of the initial lunge is that it has enough force to get the foil up to speed. I can reach similar speeds on my kite and wing, but on the wing you are limited by the size of the wing, angle of attack and type of foil. But on kite, even with the same setup, you can generate more pull from the same size kite as wing by undulating its path, thus its relative speed to the wind, thus increasing its pull. You can do that with the wing a little, but just a little.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:13 pm
Why should a similar powered wing not give the same upward lift as a kite?
I see no difference whatsoever...
Of course a lower AR wing is not efficient as a high AR foil kite, but we are only talking about the amount of possible upwards lift compared to sideways/forward lift.
It should work exactly the same, whether you have lines on your "kite", or not (wing)
And then there's the surf guys who go out with 1m wide wings...slowboat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:52 amMost people feel a large wing (bigger than 1600, for example) is "too big" for kiting. Yet, for winging, the foils are at least that big and often much bigger and they have no trouble riding swell and waves. Is the difference the lift created by the kite vs the wing thing?
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