Actually, by utilizing some windsurfing technique (tons on you tube so I won't expound here) you can schlog upwind no problem with the wing, with or without foil (not talking about on foil). But, it is totally useless to learn (I take that back, if the wind dies and you have to schlog back to the launch I guess it could be worthwhile, or if you are in a crowded spot and just trying to get out of peoples way when starting it could be useful). But, by and large it is a skill for windsurfing, and not for winging. When I first started I spent 2 - 3 days in super light wind schlogging upwind and learning some balance. But, by day 3 when I got on foil I realized I would never be doing that again. The wing is a joy when on foil. Light and easy. When not on foil it is drudgery, windsurf schlogging is way better since you don't have to hold the sail up. I think that is why winging was never popular until foiling came along...Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:18 amslowboat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:31 amI think losing ground downwind rapidly is a universal challenge when learning. I suspect with the right setup and plenty of wind, experienced riders can wing a little upwind slogging on the surface. There is definitely some technique involved such as bringing the wing towards the rear of your board and aggressively twisting upper body upwind. I have personally concluded that I need to do downwinders until I am able to pop up on foil more efficiently.
Yes, in plenty of wind, maybe...
Dont know, as I suspect you can not go much upwind, if at all, just like a kitefoil foiling versus non foiling - big difference in upwind ability, lost totally in light winds.
So when wind drops somewhat so you definitely can not foil, but still some wind, and you gotta wing it home on the surface - how are the angles here?
Depending on board length also, or? - but we want short fat boards all of us, right
Hi,BOEMIX wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:51 amSame problem here.
I just would add that i use the same board/foil combo for wing and windfoiling (SUP crossover+moses873)
and I find it so easy to go upwind with a sail (actually better than a begginer board with daggerboard) but with the wing is impossible to make any upwind progress.
So If I understood, You need to place yourself further forward on the board than you used to do while riding/pumping the foil?
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