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6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:39 pm

Hi

Many got okay small steps, I know.

But has anyone 6 and 4 m2 only?

And how dows this work?

For me with a 4 m2 I can ride from 18-20 knots somewhat sweetspot, and a lot further too.

I ride surfboards when more wind.

And then I find a 5 m2 is on the small size quite often, so a no go when light, eventhough I try, but only possible in gusts for me...

So was thinking about 6 and 4, but dont know what others experiences are regarding this gap?

Should not matter which wing, but the same wing both of them.

8) Peter

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ???

Postby Nem0 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:09 pm

Which kite you are talking about?

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ???

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:13 pm

Nem0 wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:09 pm
Which kite you are talking about?

Does it matter?

And we are talking about wings, not kites....

If it was kites, I would only use smaller steps, and not 6 to 4, but 6-5-4.

In wingfoiling, the upper end is quite extreme though, thus my question, if anyone got this combo and find it good?
Or the opposite, too big a jump.

8) Peter
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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby gl » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:47 pm

I have the five and four ozone wasps. For me there is a big difference between the two. I can get going about twelve or thirteen knots with the five and it's comfortable up to near 20. I have no desire for one any larger than that. Any lighter than that and I prefer kitefoiling. I find the four works starting aboat 16/17 knots and I haven't explored the top end yet. I have never tried a 6.

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby slowboat » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:16 am

See how often you end up wishing you had a 5 when you are either on the 6 or the 4. I don’t have any gaps because I always want to use the best size possible.

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby slingshotucf » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:24 am

I recommend to my students 6 and 4 as a quiver for Florida conditions. Then they usually add a 3 if they want to go out in really strong stuff

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby bragnouff » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:08 am

6 and 4 for me, but in the 17-20 kts that is quite frequent on my spot, a 5m would be big enough to get the job done, and as such would be better than using a bigger bulkier 6m in a more depowered fashion. (more in the sweet spot). On the other hand, I do need a 6m for the 12-17kts. And 4 should cover the high range decently. With the available budget, 6 and 4 will do!
Intermediate size would be luxury, and I expect that with experience, 6 and 4 will have a bigger overlap. I'd get more comfortable at riding the 6 in windier conditions, and also would get better at juicing more power out of the 4 in the low end.
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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby windmaker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:22 am

I believe it should work. I use 4.2 and 2.8 so 1.6m gap but wings are smaller so percentage wise close to 6 and 4m.

The big deal with wingfoil is getting up and going so a 6m can be essential in light wind. Once flying in light wind, wing size becomes less important.
At 66kg I need about 12k with a 4.2m/1500 high aspest wing/75l board to get flying and can hold it till 20k comfortably maybe more, but the 2.8m gets me going easily with just 18k so just 6k more. Not sure why , maybe it is easier to pump because lighter?

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:05 am

windmaker wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:22 am
I believe it should work. I use 4.2 and 2.8 so 1.6m gap but wings are smaller so percentage wise close to 6 and 4m.

The big deal with wingfoil is getting up and going so a 6m can be essential in light wind. Once flying in light wind, wing size becomes less important.
At 66kg I need about 12k with a 4.2m/1500 high aspest wing/75l board to get flying and can hold it till 20k comfortably maybe more, but the 2.8m gets me going easily with just 18k so just 6k more. Not sure why , maybe it is easier to pump because lighter?

You are right, it is like, when just a tad more wind, you got LOADS of more energy available, and can use a lot smaller gear.

It is in the low end I find I often struggle, but I still go out where I can only ride occasionally in the rare puffs.

Why do I go out in this?

Because wingfoil is soooo fun :naughty:

8) Peter

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Re: 6 and 4 m2 ?

Postby Dave K » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:49 am

Even though my Echo 6m/4m combo provides sufficient overlap, I’m really glad I added a 5m for our summertime thermals here on the OBX. It’s been hitting the sweet spot for a lot of summer sessions so far. The 6m is a great light wind wing for me (76 kg) but I’ll downsize to the 5 just as soon as the winds allow. Way more fun and nimble. Not a required purchase, but definitely worth it as a splurge purchase :D


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