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Wings in the surf

Postby Texaskiter » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:39 pm

Yesterday my buddy got caught inside at our local beach break and he popped his wing bladder. It was a 7M Gong; pumped reasonably stiff. The waves were not that big but enough to jackknife (fold) the leading edge right at the leash connection point and boom! I haven’t taken taken it on the head yet so it got me thinking.

2 questions for this forum:
1- Has anyone else had issues ducking through surf? The wing seems so vulnerable..
2. Do you think the manufacturers build in the requirement that the wings must be able to withstand hard hits and pulling in the surf?

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby slingshotucf » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:49 pm

Attach leashes to the leading edge handle and the wings will survive the waves.

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby juandesooka » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:02 pm

Play with fire, you're gonna get burned. :angryfire:

I think using a wing and foil in the surf, it's not a matter of "if" but "when" you will trash your wing. The wing canopy and bladders are fragile, foils are pointy, and waves are powerful. Anything other than flat water lawn mowing and it seems inevitable.

I do think you can take steps to minimize the risks. But if you go into it expecting the loss, then you won't be so disappointed when it happens. :D :thumb: :cool2:

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby gmb13 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:16 am

I have been pounded a lot in waves and shorebreak. I use Ozone, Duotone, F-One, Starboard and Slingshot. Never had a Tube or Bladder Pop because of being washed with those. The only Wing that has burst at the Leading Egde for me has been a Gong Pulse, and that was never even in big waves. I think you can trust most brands wings in waves to not blow up.

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby Horst Sergio » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:23 am

Even if not having the experience of Gunnar in waves,
I would agree with him. I had about 4 Duotone wings and I don't use them with much carefullness when riding overpowered, catapulting hooked, jumping, crashing half flakas hard and "jackknife" fold them also strongly every few minutes when I crash.
Haven't seen any problems or even wear yet. Also nobody else here I heared also with other brands. Only thing you read often in forums is the combination: GONG + Blow up.

My duotones uses the combination of huge front tube with low 6 PSI pressure, maybe this is on important difference.

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby ronnie » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:55 am

From 7 minutes in this video, is the problem of getting going again in broken waves.


The F-One Swing is quite good at flying on the leash, and if a surf wing would self-zenith on the leash, that could maybe benefit for getting out through shore-break or recovering in broken waves?

Bruno Legaignoux's self-zenith kite seemed to need a tail to function - so that may involve some extra weight (at the tail of the centre strut) as part of a compromise to redirect the nose upward?

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:23 am

It is not only Gong that has the LE blow up issues, Cabrinha Crosswings got it too, and seen on other brands also.

But it is not because of a roll in the surf, which they should be able to, it is most likely manufacturing defects.

Or it could be some kind of harsh toll when they slam into the surface on the leash, when learning in particular, which is harder than we think.

Most likely a combination of both :wink:

The major hazard is the foil killing the wing, when rolling/flipping, has happened to many, and just "how it is", nothing you can do about it.

Get it repaired, it will happen for some, now and then.

Luckily wings are quite low cost compared to other "wind" gear as windsurf rigs or kites :naughty:

Major pain is being without the wing for a while, right?

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby gmb13 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:40 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:23 am
It is not only Gong that has the LE blow up issues, Cabrinha Crosswings got it too, and seen on other brands also.

8) Peter
Those other brands however accept is as a warranty in most cases. At Gong they tell you you are too stupid to pump up the wing properly and that any water contact of the Wing is enough to lead to a seam bursting

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Re: Wings in the surf

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:22 pm

I guess you are right about this Gunnar - often the downside of lower cost online sales brands, at least some of them :roll:

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