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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby Slappysan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:18 pm

nixmatters wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:42 pm
There are 2 slightly different wings in Mackie listing ;)
Both seem to have windows though, 4 really narrow ones on one, 2 narrow ones on the other.

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby nixmatters » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:38 pm

Slappysan wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:18 pm
nixmatters wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:42 pm
There are 2 slightly different wings in Mackie listing ;)
Both seem to have windows though, 4 really narrow ones on one, 2 narrow ones on the other.
I was actually referring to the strut geometry. The different handles are probably the 'Matrix handles'.

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby slingshotucf » Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:52 am

What's the difference between alula and cuben fiber(dyneema)? The alula looked a lot like Mylar to me.

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby Flyboy » Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:14 am

SolarSet wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:37 pm
did they finally legalised marihuana in Canada? cause OR guys must be really high
The answer to that is: yes, four years ago. :cool2:

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:41 am

Slappysan wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:18 pm
nixmatters wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:42 pm
There are 2 slightly different wings in Mackie listing ;)
Both seem to have windows though, 4 really narrow ones on one, 2 narrow ones on the other.
Nice, windows :thumb:

8) Peter

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby nixmatters » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:59 am

slingshotucf wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:52 am
What's the difference between alula and cuben fiber(dyneema)? The alula looked a lot like Mylar to me.
aluula is woven and coated/laminatied differently than CF.
CF is non-woven and laminated with mylar indeed. both use UHMWPE (CF - Dyneema, aluula - I dont know)
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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby Matty V » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:19 am

This is utter shit. The size of the wings and the fact that you hold on to them means two things

The weight saving is minimal

They don’t need to float as you are holding on to it so it can’t fall out of the air in a lull.

The amount of handles reinforcing and other crap on a wing has a larger bearing on weight than dacron vs allula

1600 for a wing? f*** off.
Looking forward to Duotone steamrollering OR in the kite market with their allula equipped kites, just for the sheer greed of the OR wing prices.

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby PrfctChaos » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:15 am

I don't think anyone is going to force you to buy it... so no need to loose your cool. The market will decide.
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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby Jan:) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:48 pm

Matty V wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:19 am
The weight saving is minimal

They don’t need to float as you are holding on to it so it can’t fall out of the air in a lull.

The amount of handles reinforcing and other crap on a wing has a larger bearing on weight than dacron vs allula
I think you could be wrong in all three aspects.
40% less weight would be quite a difference.

Even holding with your hands, the wing can and does stall in turns or riding waves, which is super annoying.
A lighter wing would reduce this.

The main weight is in the leading edge dacron.
So in theory weight savings could be quite large.

They do not publish actual weight, so we will see.

That said, I would never spend that much on a wing at this point.
Chances are it will be outdated before they even can deliver.

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Re: "It" finally happened. Wings and alula.

Postby Matteo V » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:50 pm

Matty V wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:19 am
This is utter shit. The size of the wings and the fact that you hold on to them means two things

The weight saving is minimal

They don’t need to float as you are holding on to it so it can’t fall out of the air in a lull.

The amount of handles reinforcing and other crap on a wing has a larger bearing on weight than dacron vs allula

1600 for a wing? f*** off.
Looking forward to Duotone steamrollering OR in the kite market with their allula equipped kites, just for the sheer greed of the OR wing prices.
I think the stiffness of Aluula is going to be the biggest advantage. Seems like the new inflatable wings are on a path that will eventually take them closer to the original KiteWing rigid frame.
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