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Postby grtlakes » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:17 pm
I am looking at using the slingshot 120l board to teach myself/wife and son to wingfoil. Our wgts vary from 70kg to 100kg. Experience ranges from 0 to 4 years kite foiling. We have an Armstrong 2400 wing and 4.5m A-wing. I plan on using a SUP with stick on fin for the original few sessions. We will chase with a zodiac to avoid worrying about ending up downwind. Also, I plan on using the boat for the first foil sessions under tow.
I have a few questions:
Is a sup/wing board an easier board to learn and progress on? Ie Armstrong 6’6” Sup/Wing ( really pricey).
Once the basics have been met will the 120l board be an obsolete piece of equipment?
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Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:37 am
The 120 l can be used for a long time @100 kg, no problem, and a lot easier to get ashore when wind dies.
Assuming the zodiac is not used forever.
But the lighter riders will find it way too big once they are up foiling and learning to turn.
But it will take a while, maybe one season.
Peter
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Postby Dontsink » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:42 pm
Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:37 am
The 120 l can be used for a long time @100 kg, no problem, and a lot easier to get ashore when wind dies.
Assuming the zodiac is not used forever.
But the lighter riders will find it way too big once they are up foiling and learning to turn.
But it will take a while, maybe one season.
Peter
+1
That board is perfect to begin winging,use it until you really know what you want next.
And if you like it and can afford to keep it when you get a smaller one i would do so.
Big boards make venturing farther from shore less of a coin toss.
I just got back from a big upwind where the thermal seabreeze weakened just at the very end, i had to schlog for half an hour on the way back in leftover chop until i got a gust to fly again...i was on a 100l board for my 75kg so it schlogs very nicely.On a weight+10l board or smaller it would have been exhausting.
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Postby fluidity » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:19 am
Inflateable foil sups are good to learn and crash on. Cheaper than most hard boards too.
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Postby irwe » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:48 am
Tips
1. Try and learn in a spot with no or small chop. Just getting on the board in windy Great Lakes
conditions is a challenge.
2. Practice Turkish Get Up's (YouTube it) with very light weights to start (covers necessary muscle groups))
3. The 120 L board is a good minimum size to start (I started on 160 L first few times 72 kg)
4. Place Foil all the way to the front of the box if you already know how to Foil
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Postby grtlakes » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:30 pm
Thanks guys. I just picked one up. They are selling out quickly.
I can’t wait to try it.
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Postby Eltreato » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:54 pm
fluidity wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:19 am
Inflateable foil sups are good to learn and crash on. Cheaper than most hard boards too.
Except then you are stuck riding an inflatable SUP that's about as much fun as burpees.
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Postby fluidity » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:06 am
Eltreato wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:54 pm
fluidity wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:19 am
Inflateable foil sups are good to learn and crash on. Cheaper than most hard boards too.
Except then you are stuck riding an inflatable SUP that's about as much fun as burpees.
You've got that as wrong as can be
I'd be happy with a shorter inflatable foil board now I'm used to winging but I'm going DIY instead and Without ordering upwards of 100M drop stitch raw material... It's simply easier to build composite because I can get smaller lengths of more tradional composite fabrics. Forget "Soft" on an inflatable, at a working pressure of around 18 PSI and a good foil mount the feel of the foil under foot is plenty solid
And as for planing, you just need to add some coanda effect disruptors on the back edges where a hard board would have hard rails. Most of the time it's in the air though
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