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Re: second session on a wing...

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:01 pm

nayy wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:00 pm
wingfoil 39th session: big foil vs small foil


For those who still doubt about the effect of the size of the front wing for light and irregular winds...

https://youtu.be/i3N5qa0Q6-U

I am not sure this is fully correct....

For light and stable winds, yes a small front wing is no good as you will never get up.

But when you get a smaller and much faster front wing up foiling, it will ride so much faster, that you will get even more lift and power both from your front wing and you wing-wing :thumb:
So if wing is a bit gusty, a small front wing can sometimes be great.

It is not that black and white.

Many drop the big beginner front wings because once they get up, they dont go any faster, so you dont gain lift nor power, like with faster wings, besides being impossible to ride waves as they glide too slow.

It is true though, that in marginal conditions where difficult to pump up on foil, a bigger wing is great for this very purpose, eventhough they turn lousy.

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Re: second session on a wing

Postby Dontsink » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:16 pm

Foil&Wing size depend on skill and conditions.

The better you get at pumping up on foil the smaller you can go, and the payback is faster,more responsive riding.More fun.
It makes a huge difference.

But it is good to stay with reasonably easy gear because it will allow you to try and learn new maneuvers (falling a lot) without dreading the inevitable "now i have to get up again".

Wind quality is a huge factor too, 15kt can be heaven or hell depending on air temp,turbulence,duration of gusts, sea state,seaweed,currents etc...
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Re: second session on a wing...

Postby nayy » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:00 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:01 pm

I am not sure this is fully correct....

For light and stable winds, yes a small front wing is no good as you will never get up.

But when you get a smaller and much faster front wing up foiling, it will ride so much faster, that you will get even more lift and power both from your front wing and you wing-wing :thumb:
So if wing is a bit gusty, a small front wing can sometimes be great.

It is not that black and white.

Many drop the big beginner front wings because once they get up, they dont go any faster, so you dont gain lift nor power, like with faster wings, besides being impossible to ride waves as they glide too slow.

It is true though, that in marginal conditions where difficult to pump up on foil, a bigger wing is great for this very purpose, eventhough they turn lousy.

8) Peter
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Second that Peter... I just talk for marginal irregular winds on a shitty inland lake ;-).
without the big foil we don't get up... the difference is huge...
We have a 6m² and a 4,5m² since a few months... until today even never touched the 4,5...

And for beginners, it is so much easier on a bigger wing... at least for the first sessions...

8m² strike is on it's way ;-)

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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:04 pm

Session 41:

first session with the F-one strike CWC 8m² (has been posted earlier)
6-12 knots (more 6-9)


complete session:


only drone images:
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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:08 pm

Session 42:

Finally good conditions to test the Takoon V1 4,5m² that we bought 3 months ago...

Very gusty 15-30 kn wind...

Also compared the W1100 with the W950 sabfoil wing... again a very big difference between both... the small wing gave much more control...



Enjoy,

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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:59 pm

wingfoil session 43:

again smaller wing and foil: Takoon V1 4,5m² and Sabfoil 950 ...

this time more regular wind and so much fun this combo...





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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:19 pm

Wingfoil session 44: first tacks...



only the drone footage:



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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:54 pm

'the learning curve from a beginning wingfoiler'
Summary session 2 tot session 43 in about 9 months...

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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:36 pm

wingsession 48... windy sunday morning...

Finally we are allowed to go back to our regular lake... winter stop is over...
we are spoiled... feb and no gloves needed anymore...

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Re: second session on a wing

Postby nayy » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:58 pm

wingsession 49 ... light wind winging... 8 kn ...

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