One of things you can do that helps is to not hold the front grab handle but rather your first handle on the wing or the boom. Unweights the rear end a little.airsail wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:14 pmMy foiling whether kite or wing revolves around high wind +15 knots wind swell riding.
Wind swell is a weird beast, not peeling in one direction but popping up left and right as you ride the swell. Multiple cutbacks or direction changes are required whilst riding almost directly downwind at speed.
Now when kitefoiling it’s no problem, just swing the strutless or FS Peak back and forth as you chase the swell peak. On a wing you must pass the wing in front of you as you change directions, often physically holding it up as when travelling at 15+ knots in 15 knots of wind as there is no wind to hold it up.
So although I’ve reached a high level of proficiency on the wing this could be a deal breaker. I understand on a lovely cross shore breeze, with a peeling wave, winging would be brilliant, but it’s not conditions we get.
Anyone else found this limitation or a fix? It would be great to have the wing flag out behind you, but downwind swell riding doesn’t allow for this for except for limited times when your actually pointed across the wind.
That's interesting. How much wing foiling did you do? I've got about 150 hours and feel I've barely scratched the surface. Waves and wind chop are where it's at. I'm doing ok with small-moderate sized swells. Still getting clobbered on bigger waves. The few times I've survived a drop with a big carving turn my heart has been in my mouth.
True, I only learned the basics, but I can gybe with foot switch 100% and ride and carve the wind swell enough to get some unpowered runs. It’s fun and rewarding, and I think if I put enough time into it I’d get dialed and it’d be great. But kitefoil is already great, and I’d rather keep exploring that with my time right now and become an expert in something I’ve already trained well than be only sort of good at two things.OzBungy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:16 amThat's interesting. How much wing foiling did you do? I've got about 150 hours and feel I've barely scratched the surface. Waves and wind chop are where it's at. I'm doing ok with small-moderate sized swells. Still getting clobbered on bigger waves. The few times I've survived a drop with a big carving turn my heart has been in my mouth.
Absolutely if I had to choose one sport then it would be no contest. Kite foiling wins by a long way.
That sounds absolutely right for me. For me these are the reasons to wingfoil rather than kitefoil. But in most cases I think kitefoil is more fun for me.jkrug wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:06 pmwinging for me has become quite the frustrating beast. every time i go out i feel i'm missing a good day of kite foiling. when it's blowing 15-20 mph. i'm ok winging at 20, but miserable at 15. if i were kite foiling, i'd be fine at both. so much of winging reminds me of why i quit windsurfing. sure it was fun in 25+, but given that almost never happens around here, i feel winging is a step back. and like many have said, kite foiling with a Peak (or my 6M UNO trainer kite) feels like more freedom than lugging around a 6.5M wing. Right now, i'd say winging only makes sense if there is no good kite launch available.
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