What Size Wings Do You Need? | Building a Wing Foil Quiver

[Toby]

[Peter_Frank]

What a stupid video, sorry to say....

It might be good, but talking about windspeed in mph is utterly useless for most of the world, so I stopped watching it as it didnt make sense at all, could not relate

Knots, or m/s in europe, everybody understands, even those who dont as it is close to a factor 2 so easy.

If it was written, one could google and translate the mph to something useful - but not possible with a video.

Sorry to say, but that is a "redo" in order to be worth anything

Peter

[bragnouff]

What a stupid video, sorry to say....

talking about windspeed in mph is utterly useless for most of the world

And also it's even more annoying to state rider weight in lbs. When using sensible metric units, as most of the world does, it is trivial to compare the weight of a rider with the volume of a board, which matters a lot for wingfoiling.
I'm actually surprised they're not stating the volume of boards in gallons...

[tkaraszewski]

I'm gonna be the weird American and agree that the metric system is better (though coming from a sailing background I do use knots for windspeed). Even i the US we have kite sizes in meters, wing sizes in meters, board sizes in liters, mast lengths in cm, wing areas in square cm. We can just use metric, especially when creating videos for an international audience (could even add subtitles with US units for people who want them).

But I'm weird, I'm an American who has his phone set to show the weather in C and records how many km I ride on my bike.

[bragnouff]

I'm gonna be the weird American and agree that the metric system is better (though coming from a sailing background I do use knots for windspeed). Even i the US we have kite sizes in meters, wing sizes in meters, board sizes in liters, mast lengths in cm, wing areas in square cm. We can just use metric, especially when creating videos for an international audience (could even add subtitles with US units for people who want them).

But I'm weird, I'm an American who has his phone set to show the weather in C and records how many km I ride on my bike.

Nautical miles, and therefore knots, are still legit and common even in a metric world. Totally makes sense for measuring distances at sea, and would have made even more sense in a pre-GPS past with the navigational instruments based on earth rotation.

[thewindego]

Peter you know knots vs mph are so similar..15% and all of North America would say its blowing 20 and thats good enough. m/s wtf who uses that lol

[oldkiter]

Mac shop obviously deals with US buyers.

[Peter_Frank]

Mac shop obviously deals with US buyers.

Probably, that explains

15 % difference knots versus mph yes, but is it more or less?

When fed into a fast talk with many wind numbers, it is REALLY difficult to understand.

So when you dont know if more or less (and why should you, the least used unit for wind), it means there could be 30 % difference in your interpretation, and again, as wind power/pull is windspeed squared, it could mean 70 % difference in wind, because of a unit only used by few.

There is a HUGE difference between 17.4 and 23 knots.
Besides the fact you could use a kite or wing or sail close to half the size, a bit more yes, with apparent wind, but around 60-65 %.
Even if you said it was roughly the same, the sizes could be 32 % off (1.15*1.15)

Agree, meters per second is something used here in europe mostly I think, but in fact also the standard for aviation and recommended for all airports worldwide regarding ground wind measurements since 2010.
Flight speed in km/h and wind speed in m/s.
But the historical unit knots are still allowed for airport wind speed, a good idea in order to avoid too many equipment changes.

You asked who uses m/s windego.

Not saying we should use m/s for wind speed though, as knots is THE unit to use indeed, worldwide known and can be easily shared and understood by everybody.

It seems only 9 % of the world use mph as unit for driving speed, and speed limits, so up to 81 % are not familiar with this unit.

My point was, why not use a standard unit, knots, the whole world can relate to???

So guess you are right, this video aims at local buyers solely.
A shame, as it could be good for many newcomers....

Peter

[bragnouff]

So guess you are right, this video aims at local buyers solely.

Even if it's a US based shop, there's an international audience, that's what happens when you publish on YouTube.
There's also plenty of good video creators who add a tiny bit of effort to add extra captions to cater for world wide audience.

There are also plenty of americans who are totally oblivious to what happens outside of the US of A. (but I'd hope MAC kiteboarding is enlightened enough to not fall into that category).

That's a lot of discussions on that video even if none of us managed to go though the whole thing

[JakeFarley]

1 M/S = 1.9438 Knots I usually multiply M/S by 2 to get knots.
1 Knot = 1.15078 MPH (miles per hour). Only the pole boarders in my local spot use MPH. They ask me for the wind speed in mph - I give them knots and tell them to add 15%. I can see the gears turning in their head to calculate it.

For me I do not need a 3 wing quiver as the winds here rarely get over 20 knots (mostly in tropical storms/hurricanes). When I get more efficient at winging I may get a 7.5 or 8m wing for "light" winds to compliment my 6.4m wing (I am 92kg).