I agree, the Apex (1, 2, 3, & 4) were the biggest (and longest) mistake that HQ ever made. They made lots of potential customers think that HQ was all junk (not true). In the larger sizes, those kites are useless compared to even some bad LEI and foils made well before the Apex. And actually, I would rate those versions of the Apex as on par with 2002 depower foil technology - 1st'ish gen that almost worked, or was slightly better than a non-depower kite. I would love to know the real story as to how/why HQ could have a better kite in the Montana (5,6,7) than the Ozone Frenzy ever was, but not adequately update the Apex to actually compete, even in a tiny way, with the Ozone Access. Seriously, there has to be a story there.Anthonyshopguy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:57 amRemember this is the tale of 2 kiters. Todd had some kind of miss connect on his lines and never went more than a couple of hundred feet. Tom and I both put in 10 miles plus no problem Todd put in 100' and struggled all day. He is ready to quite. Saying he wants to kite to relax not to get uptight. Well flying JUNK can lead to frustration. Lesson learned I'm going to bring some smaller LEI's that fly well that should help with his anxiety for size. And I'm going to spend time with him until he feels comfortable.
Thanks, I'd love to but I'm stuck in Denver through tomorrow. Back down south from Wednesday on. I've never heard of Snow Mesa or Jarose Mesa. Do you access them with a snowmachine?ScottN wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:48 pmI get down that way a fair amount but usually go to Snow Mesa or Jarose Mesa. Usually if NOAA has a forecast of 15-20 you can be pretty sure of wind. I think I am going down there tomorrow, 10-15 forecast but the rest of the week look pretty rowdy. You are welcome to join me if you want.
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