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Trent hink
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Postby Trent hink » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:11 pm
Oh come on, Fox and CNN are obvious propaganda outlets.
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Postby Matteo V » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:33 pm
Trent hink wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:11 pm
Oh come on, Fox and CNN are obvious propaganda outlets.
A stopped clock can still be right twice a day. Don't judge the message by the messenger, judge the message by the evidence.
Personally I do not believe CNN is ALL fake news. They are regularly caught using the truth when it fits in with their bias. Thus discounting EVERYTHING they say forces you into the trap of sometimes discounting the truth. Please feel free to insert any news organization, other organization, or person, in place of CNN in the former sentence.
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Postby marlboroughman » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:21 pm
Arctic sea ice just switched sides, must be sponsored by big oil now.
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Postby foilholio » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:22 pm
Saul but that's Fox and that's Tucker Carlson, so clearly SimonP is not going to listen to it. As proven by Trent.
The basic problem is people like SimonP are bigots. So it is pointless providing them alternative opinions because they do not listen to them. Proven by the fact that they state so.
While I do agree the MSM is an outlet for propaganda and so too is social media more becoming, that does not discount all messages on these platforms. To do so is ridiculous. It does not even necessarily discount some of the propaganda. Things at times may be lies or exaggerations but there can be solid reasons for them. Maybe not all the time, or even often but there can be.
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Postby SimonP » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:43 pm
It is not bigoted to listen only to those who know what they are talking about. This is called filtering and is a rational response to today's world where there is no much misinformation.
For climate science there is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), whose role is to distill the science so that global policy makers can make rational future decisions. All of their work is indexed and cross-referenced so that you can read the original papers if interested.
https://www.ipcc.ch/
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Postby jumptheshark » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:16 am
foilholio wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:22 pm
Saul but that's Fox and that's Tucker Carlson, so clearly SimonP is not going to listen to it. As proven by Trent.
The basic problem is people like SimonP are bigots. So it is pointless providing them alternative opinions because they do not listen to them. Proven by the fact that they state so.
While I do agree the MSM is an outlet for propaganda and so too is social media more becoming, that does not discount all messages on these platforms. To do so is ridiculous. It does not even necessarily discount some of the propaganda. Things at times may be lies or exaggerations but there can be solid reasons for them. Maybe not all the time, or even often but there can be.
Bigots eh? For a guy who cries foul every time someone so much as hints at your, shall we say, social development shortcomings. You toss some pretty hefty labels around.
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Postby foilholio » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:03 am
SimonP wrote:
It is not bigoted to listen only to those who know what they are talking about. This is called filtering and is a rational response to today's world where there is no much misinformation.
For climate science there is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), whose role is to distill the science so that global policy makers can make rational future decisions. All of their work is indexed and cross-referenced so that you can read the original papers if interested.
https://www.ipcc.ch/
I don't think you know what the meaning of the word bigot is. Maybe if you were less of a bigot you would. Do try maybe
jumptheshark wrote:
Bigots eh? For a guy who cries foul every time someone so much as hints at your, shall we say, social development shortcomings. You toss some pretty hefty labels around.
You can likely join him too!
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Postby jumptheshark » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:00 am
Placing no stock in your opinions is not intolerance.
As the guy playing the semantics card you should get that.
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Postby marlboroughman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:25 am
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Postby foilholio » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:53 am
Yes but refusing to listening to someone else because xyz is.
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