Oh dear you have invoked the name "Douglas Murray", prepare for an assault from any resident SJWs.prop_joe wrote:That was my reaction too Agree with him or not at least he's amusing.
I think the following is the sort of thing FF was alluding too? Ignore the douchey title and to skip to 1min 45secs. Bit off the orignal topic but relevent to the discussion.
You will notice some have already called to "cancel" this thread.
The fleshlight is an old old sponsor, Joe has been at this now for 10 years. He does intentionally do things to throw people off to the actual content of his podcast, the logo for one. You need to overcome the small but real psycological barrier of "Not judging a book by it's cover".jumptheshark wrote:Joe is hilarious, but you just cant give much serious credibility to any program that has to use fleshlight and online encryption/anonymity services as their primary sponsors! Lends a bit of insight into the primary target audience.
On dragons, if you listen to what is discussed it is quite plausible. After all there is evidence and record of some very amazing things that have been alive with humans like Gigantopithecus.
The alien stuff? Yes certainly. I am strawmanning you. I know you certainly don't mean bacteria etc on mars, but actually little green men.Pemba wrote: Hmm.. for someone that "doesn't always reads literally but often contextually" it seems you're arguing semantics now..
So physics describes the climate as a system of oscillations because of uneven energy distribution. We are on one oscillations end currently, a warm end. We should transition back to the cold one, but CO2 will make a difference and may even prevent it. I don't think current CO2 will prevent it but much higher CO2 may, say 1500ppm. The transition to an ice age could be as long as 1000years away or as little as now. It is likely it will be quite obvious when it starts, and it is not obvious now given we are warming and not cooling.Pemba wrote: So your point is that this is likely to happen again at some point and what we are trying to do with CO2 emissions really won't make any difference because of that ?
What seems to be the key to slipping into an ice age is the reflectivity of the planet. For that ice coverage is the factor. The orbital conditions to grow more ice have been met but ice cover is still quite static or even slightly dropping so it looks as if CO2 is doing something. If temperatures start long trending down then that would signal time for true alarm. It is not something I think really we will worry about but future generations. We could guarantee less chance for an ice age by continuing to pump CO2 like we are. It will also grant other benefits through plants to us. It is likely I think we may have to do more with other green house gases to warm the planet. Lest we become a frozen ball like mars. And yes I know it is more complicated than that and mars is cold because it has little atmosphere.