Bille wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:42 pm
Hi Taron !
Your First post ; welcome to KF !!
Don't purchase anything ; seek-out , and talk to the locals First , because
they know the weather in your aria, and can match you to the correct
size kites for water, land and snow.
The land-boards and buggy's , are a Blast ; you'll like it as well !!
Bille
Thank you! ^^
The problem for me is finding people that are willing to hang out and give me some tips. Plenty of kitesurfers in The Netherlands, but so far I haven't been able to find any groups that also land kiting.
joriws wrote:
Superkiteday group has a lot of snowkite and landboard videos on youtube, and group is on facebook. Maybe there you might get some contacts. Also is there a dutch forum on FB?
If I were to start again kiteing on hard soil I would take kite like Peak4 as a trainer, mountain and landboard usage. It is cheap also as new and not exlosing lifty to make you more safe while training. It dumps power (created for the Alps, low wind on valley but nuking at the top) and flies nice in safe training winds on land. Unfortunately for beginner & water it is not recommended although intermediate & advanced riders use Peak4 on water with hydrofoils. On land if you loose kite control surface does not forgive like in water. On snow it does but I understood landboarding is #1 requirement. After you learn basics with peak4 you can move on any direction you like like more explosive kites or more hangtime foil kites etc.
So to accompany peak4 for water you need a water kite. In the beginning you might crash a lot so 2nd hand cheap & easy kite, just select right size for your weight, typical winds and board size.
So, you are recommending to buy 2 separate kites anyways? An LEI kite for water and a foil for land?
plummet wrote:
Yes you can use an lei.
The downside. Its slower to set up/pack up, more likely to get damaged when crashed on land, Is less compact and your need to carry a pump if you want to go a distance.
Upside. Lots of depower, generally faster and more dynamic that foils.
10m is a good size to start with.
Make sure you have a good understanding of the wind and gusts and how wind gets disturbed around obstacles. Inland land boarding can be dangerous due dirty gusty wind and very little room for error compared to crashing in water.
If those are the only problems then I think I'll be able to handle it. I got a car so having to carry a pump or the time it takes to set up isn't an issue.
I am not sure how more likely it is to get damaged. But especially since I don't want to buy 2 kites right away I think I'll just take the risk. I'm probably buying an used kite second hand. (But still one that is not older then +/- 2015, as recommended on this forum somewhere)
Herman wrote:
^ +1 for Billie's, Jorwis’s and Plummet's advice. LEIs are fine for land and can be good gust handlers. The only caveat I would put on that is, at least to start with, is to avoid the ones that are prone to backstall when underpowered. Not a problem with most modern designs but designs like the old kahoona are lovely when powered but a bit annoying if used for low power landboarding.
Bear in mind that from mid F4 you can ride a land board with a 3m fixed bridle 2 line kite as long as you are on hard packed sand or better. It would be a cheap way to start if you have a suitable venue. Cheap skate style trucks are adequate for this.
F4 is a brand? Or what exactly are you referring to? Could you post a link maybe?
Thanks everyone for your replies!