yeah Ive watched his stuff and chatted with him minorly, he is flying a 12m soul most of the time (i dont have one) but he also does them from a glide really high in the air with a bit less room for air, thats why im doing on a side of a hill to get some extra height without actually being super high up. Ive landed a few glides with a loop but its more of cranking on the acceleration, then heavy on break, and as im pretty close to the ground crank the loop and still land as the kite is going back up(not sure if you can visualize it) I think I can get the 12m around... im just missing the 12 m soul . I can loop the 8m pretty well, and on the next 20knts day may mess around with back loop back rolls on the smaller kite. Lolo makes them look so smooth.joriws wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:00 pmHave you checked LoloBSD videos from Youtube for tips? He glides a lot, also seems to use Soul (unknown size to me) a lot and lands with loops at least on videos I've seen. (Well many latest videos are with Peak4).
Like this one, 360(?) camera makes angles weird..
I think i need to get in the habit of sheeting the bar out as the kite is heading back up, im focused so much on watching the kite and making sure i don't crater I forget the bar. The dynamics are different on the loop when I glide (much easier when the timing is right even when sheeted in). I was hoping i'm missing a bigger step, but I guess not.joriws wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:47 pmJust to think what you can do on the bars end, if kite does not catch you ie get above you to carry you weight. Only thing to do IMO is just sheet out to let kite fly faster and maybe because of less lift pendulum you less.
On some previous post I posted you the glide polar graph, let's continue that with theory first. You know the practice better than I do so please correct me if my theories are wrong:
* on highest yank of kiteloop wing loading is the highest and kite moves faster on same bar position due to high wing loading.
* after the yank you enter almost free fall phase with very little wing loading - this phase you need to have kite flying fast to catch you and you should sheet out to keep kite speed up to catch you. If you sheet in that is wrong way to do. You can see this also in many big air pilot view videos. Also if lines loose you lose because kite enters drifting mode instead of climbing up on your line tension.
* you sort of drop under the kite, and if kite is "lower" to the ground (hill side wall too) than lines are long you have a hit.
* when kite is back high enough and again wing loading increases you can start doing heliloops with more bar sheeting. Because the kite has catched you and your pendulum.
* on glide polar from top point you should not ever be on the left side of peak lift because kite slows down more but generates less lift. So sheet out to let kite fly faster.
* hill-side effects I cannot comment, naturally it turns then true wind vector upwards which changes affective AoA but that depends a lot on kite position on loop too. Maybe analysis of that is next in line..
Here is same glide polar with the effect of wing loading. So the polar is constantly changing on your line loading to lower right when wing loading increases.
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