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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby edt » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:44 pm

I've used dakine hooks they are the weakest ones I've used, break very easily.

"I do tend to upgrade harnesses every few years"

I think it might be useful to figure out how long the hooks have been used not just which brands.

I use my harnesses until they wear out, then sew them up and keep using them.

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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby redskykiter » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:17 am

"I use my harnesses until they wear out, then sew them up and keep using them."

I've never had to sew a harness... I replace them every few years

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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby knotwindy » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:30 am

Lose the hook & the rope :thumb:
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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby kiteykitekite » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:31 am

You don't need a loop and you don't need a hook. Your hook breaking off is your gear just trying to help you make that change. Listen to your gear. BTW how shit is Ion? No wonder they didn't use that name for kites...

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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby edt » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:34 am

makes it hard to do a handle pass.

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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby edt » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:36 am

here's my current harness

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10% liquid force 10% ride engine 10% duotone 70% home depot

my next harness is gonna be mystic I think they seem the strongest

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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:54 am

I thought that looked like a bad design for a hook. Regular ones at least take the constant load in a straight path.

I've had a couple of older Dakine hooks snap right off, and a couple break on one side only.

Would really like one of those NP hooks but they're tough to find.
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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby purdyd » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:20 pm

davedej wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:08 pm
Source: https://www.wetestkites.com/2020/03/21/ ... our-lines/

Angry. Disappointed. Hurt. Feelings
I love that you guys look into this stuff.

But if you are going to do testing, I hope you do it right and get an engineer.

And I would hope that you would get some real load data.

I’ve seen duotone using load sensors on kite lines. I would hope they would share that data.

And honestly, with some real load data you can probably figure out quite quickly with some analysis which hooks are going to be a problem.
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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby davedej » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:54 pm

purdyd wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:20 pm
davedej wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:08 pm
Source: https://www.wetestkites.com/2020/03/21/ ... our-lines/

Angry. Disappointed. Hurt. Feelings
I love that you guys look into this stuff.

But if you are going to do testing, I hope you do it right and get an engineer.

And I would hope that you would get some real load data.

I’ve seen duotone using load sensors on kite lines. I would hope they would share that data.

And honestly, with some real load data you can probably figure out quite quickly with some analysis which hooks are going to be a problem.
We are open for suggestions regarding the (independent) engineer.

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Re: Is your harness weaker than your lines?

Postby Toby » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:39 pm

knotwindy wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:30 am
Lose the hook & the rope :thumb:
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Good idea 👍🏻
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