Sonic 3 s have plastic batterns, and they do give a lot more stability to the kite in comparisson with Sonic Race and Sonic Race VMG, i think we re just missing the trully big size (eyeing the 21), which would be a very nice christmas present for myself.fernmanus wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:42 amThe battens are the secret sauce. One of the biggest struggles in light wind is pre-inflation of the kite, the battens solve this issue. They also provide much needed stability in light winds.
A 21M Sonic3 built with battens would also be a ton more fun than a 21m Soul. Better yet, a 23 since the depower is so good. It is the ticket for fun riding in 10 to 15 knots on a big, fast twin-tip.
Perhaps, Flysurfer may not see the need for such a kite as many riders have moved to hydrofoil, but not everyone and for snowkiting a 21 and/or 23m would be the bomb on the light, deep powder days. If FS designers are unconvinced, grab a fast twin-tip at the next race and try the 23M VMG in 10 knots, it will put a smile on your face. Much more fun than the Soul 21m in similar conditions. People are still buying and using the 21m Soul, but almost all of them are using the big Soul for free-riding, not hydrofoiliing. You really don't want or need that big of a kite to foil in lightwind. Most of my friends use a 15 and a couple very big guys foil with an 18, but I have never seen anyone even try the 21 with the hydrofoil.
Thank you for the Sonic 3 vs Sonic Race comparison! The 21m will make a very nice present to yourself!Sonic 3 s have plastic batterns, and they do give a lot more stability to the kite in comparisson with Sonic Race and Sonic Race VMG, i think we re just missing the trully big size (eyeing the 21), which would be a very nice christmas present for myself.
By the way, this week i took some data comparing the Sonic race 11 and Sonic 3 11 on a race hydrofoil setup with the same bar. On both managed to keep upwind speeds of 23-25 knots, main difference was the upwind angle, where the race manages to point on average a couple degrees higher. On the downwind legs also managed to get similar speeds on both, averaging 32-34 knots, but in this case the Sonic 3 managed to point in average 5 degrees lower, i suspect it has do do withHi our gusty conditions, wghere the sonic 3 behaves better.
Thank you, Armin! My compliments to you and your design team on the new VMG. It is a spectacular kite for light wind fun!A reduced bridle like at the VMG without break lines make relaunching in light wind difficult. So that it not the solution.
But we keep on pushing kiting and fun in the lighter breeze of wind.
Thank you. The Sonic 3 is a VMG with stronger bridle with extra break lines. Aspect ratio and radius ist also adapted for more free ride improvement.fernmanus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:01 am
Thank you, Armin! My compliments to you and your design team on the new VMG. It is a spectacular kite for light wind fun!
I suggest a 21 Sonic 3 with fiberglass battens or a free ride version of the VMG with A bit stronger bridle and added brake lines for your consideration. I think you would be surprised by the interest of light wind riders on both snow and water.
Yes, the Sonic really shines in the larger sizes. When you compare the 18 Soul to the 18 Sonic, the Sonic is so much more fun!Would also love to see a 21 or 23 as it would be amazing for those 5-12 knot days which we get a lot of in the summer.
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