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Postby Kamikuza » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:09 am
Laughingman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:25 pm
Toby wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:24 pm
Bille is on here, big time paraglider.
Hope he reads this
I don't think he is gonna see this thread.... He has not been active since Feb 28th... maybe he misses Starsky....
Billie thinks PG is more dangerous than kiting too, I think he's said HG is safer...even though it tried to kill him
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Postby Kamikuza » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:10 am
Slappysan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:11 am
There are electric options for PPG if noise is a big issue. They will still be noisy when powered up but less so than a gas engine and once up there you can turn off the engine and thermal as opposed to letting the engine idle.
Flysurfer is working on one. Latest thing I saw on FB this week was looking like they're getting close to a really finished product.
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Postby Flyboy » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:40 am
One other question: if you learn on a PPG, do the skills translate directly to a PG?
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Postby Dave_5280 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:54 am
I read a book a couple of years ago about a guy that learned to fly a PPG, and he said he made the mistake of first taking PG lessons and it was a waste of time and money since learning the foot-launched PPG was so different than PG. He said it was better to start out taking PPG lessons. There was a lot of things to consider with the equipment and also vehicle set up.
Aviation is expensive and dangerous. Research can be a big help and help you decide if it is worth the risk and money. I spent a lot of money getting a private pilot license years ago and had a lot of fun, learned a lot, and drifted away from it after the cost and seeing how deadly it can be when two instructors died in accidents. Reading about accident reports and forum posts can be very sobering and give you a different view than everyone that sells lessons and equipment telling you that it is safe.
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Postby Brian H » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:03 pm
I learned to Ppg first and flew for 5 years and then learned to Pg . It's all about learning to ground handle the wing and controlling it over your head in a little wind . The Pg guys like more wind to run off the hill or get lifted off from the wind coming up a ridge . The Ppg guys just walk forward in a little wind and control the glider over head then role on the throttle and up you go . This year I got an electric start motor and put a reserve on my motor and have been motoring up into the mountains and thermalling with the Pg guys .
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Postby chemosavi » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:50 pm
Fascinating topic, and the last on my bucket list of to do sports.
Reading these posts, however, have introduced a new concern.
DEATH!
Maybe postpone until my doc says I have an incurable disease.
How about powered hang gliders?
Similar death rate?
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Postby Slappysan » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:55 pm
If you want to fly with the minimum risk of death then go the power glider route. Basically a glider that provides its own tow up.
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Postby mgs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:22 pm
I like the idea of Paragliding at low level on the beach, plenty of videos on YouTube.
However, I came across this video so will keep to kitesurfing thanks very much. (The comments make a good read)
https://youtu.be/y6QA_YB2pO0
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Postby chemosavi » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:17 pm
I came across a video or two like this but this one takes all
https://youtu.be/lCrFrhrNj1Q
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Postby Flyboy » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:36 pm
None of the PPG accidents in these videos seem that serious ... although I'm sure there have been serious/fatal accidents. I'm supposing that a "power glider" is much more expensive & not easily transportable.
After posting to this thread,I discovered that there is a PPG school right in the next town - the nearest PG schools are hundred of miles away. It would be easier to learn on a PPG, which I could use locally, & use a PG when traveling to hilly/mountainous areas ... If the skills learned in PPG are transferable to PG.
As far as the risks are concerned, I imagine the major risk has to do with the weather. It's surely possible to be very conservative when choosing when to launch & not getting into risky aerobatics? The same is true with kiting. However, I do see that the fundamental difference is that any fall from a height greater than 30 or 40 feet is likely to be fatal when flying PPG or PG.
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