Foxi wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:36 pm
I would seriously take some time to rethink your idea on changing to a foil kites especially if you say your into free riding and like "fast turning kites" perhaps if your racing might be food for thought and have a chase jetski if you drop em a distance from shore but for everyday freeriding I would save some dough and stick to LEI single struts quite a few good ones out there these days that are very good for foiling and much safer.I personally was intrigued by the foil kites as well and purchased a ozone 12m HL with bar over 2grand what a waste very slow turning especially if you foil strapless like myself the waterstarts are much more difficult with a slug foil kite just way slower than a good foil tube kite,lowend was fairly impressive on the HL, however for the $spent my 12m boxer has just as much lowed but turns much faster for strapless water starts,downlooping etc and heeps safer,don't need to get into it but we all know that when the foil kites go down it certainly is not a pretty picture.I had 2 decent swims albeit pilot error on my part on downlooping and catching a wingtip with my HL and paid the piper rolling that kite up fast and swimming/paddling in with it not fun at all,so I retired it to the garage and finally decided and sold it couple weeks ago at a loss of coarse!tThe old to each his own on your equipment as usual,but before you piss your $ away you might rethink it and learn by others mistakes.The only advantage I see with a foil kite foiling is if your a racer or want to ride in some ridiculous low wind with a 17-19m ultra light to set yourself up for a horrendous swim if the Sh*% hits the fan,LEI by far excel in all facets especially in the ocean foiling in swell and waves and most of all good ole safety,If you do make the plunge I would highly suggest a real floaty board to assist in paddling in to the beach when the sh*$ hits the fan because you will drop it eventually,just some friendly honest advice been there.
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your attitude makes me sleep way better again ..
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I came into foil kites from a pump up environment! I don't know what your weight is but the 12m HL was maybe not a great choice for you. with my 9m I can get going in around 7 knots, and the 9m is fast enough for me. as with any transition there is a learning curve involved and if your not willing to go through that curve, because your impatient, you cannot develop enough relaunch skills in a few session with a foil. your mistake could have been possibly your impatient, and to give advice with that quality maybe is not that cool to give .............. lol..............I have no issues that you love your boxer, great kite, but you try relaunching it sub 9 knots you will have a problem. with the new generation of foil kites you have far more of a chance.......