For an absolute newbie

[tomtom]

Amen to that. Basic TT or SB riding and "without looking" kite control are essential. Wild vipeouts are good indication of inadequate kite skills. You must know what your kite is doing while falling.

[jakemoore]

So this is what I would search for for 10 knots vs 107 kilos. You probably need a bigger kite as well.

http://c.ikitesurf.com/classifieds/36452

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cabrinha-Race- ... SwISNbldGG

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kite-Race-Boar ... XQCndRhW1k

http://c.ikitesurf.com/classifieds/35237

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7536VqoCiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI6IQ03gKUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjf5KYDBnac

[azoele]

There:
But more important: the foil has some dangerous aspects to it, in particular if you happen to wrap lines on the foil, where it can become very serious, even life threatening.

This is something I would have never thought of myself.
I knew risks included (possibly serious) cuts and impacts, but it didn't occur to me lines could get wrapped on the foil and become so dangerous. I never even read of it before.

Thanks for reporting it: it... puts the thing in a different perspective, and begins to lend acceptability to a surfboard as a first step.

Lopi

[juandesooka]

There:
But more important: the foil has some dangerous aspects to it, in particular if you happen to wrap lines on the foil, where it can become very serious, even life threatening.

This is something I would have never thought of myself.
I knew risks included (possibly serious) cuts and impacts, but it didn't occur to me lines could get wrapped on the foil and become so dangerous. I never even read of it before.

Thanks for reporting it: it... puts the thing in a different perspective, and begins to lend acceptability to a surfboard as a first step.

Lopi

Sorry to be the downer or wet blanket ... "Captain Safety" strikes again. Try searching variations of "kite foil death looping" to find some reports or videos. It usually happens when someone wipes out and the foil launches into the lines. Then a line wraps, such that the safety release no longer works, the kite loops, and then the kiter hurtles through the sky tied to an axe. There are some horrifying videos.

It could be these reports aren't that common because virtually no one pursues this the way you are proposing to ... a kite newbie also trying to foil at the same time. It's nearly always a competent kiter who then attempts to add foil to the repetoire. My kiting mentor's mantra was: "it's all about the kite".

Whichever way you go, play safe!

[opie]

I am surprised to hear that some of you managed to avoid getting the foil in the kite lines. I thought it was an inevitable (and definitely dangerous), part of learning.

[Peter_Frank]

I am surprised to hear that some of you managed to avoid getting the foil in the kite lines. I thought it was an inevitable (and definitely dangerous), part of learning.

You are right, it is a thing that WILL happen to almost everyone some day, dont have to be when learning only....

PF

[foilonfoil]

Tough but doable... Use a big board with the hydrofoil - Enough volume so that it will support your weight standing up. A big surf wing will help you with your water starts. Beyond that, a big kite... A fly surfer soul 18M could be a nice alternative to a big heavy LEI. One back loop of the kite to get you standing followed immediately by a second back loop to get you foiling.

Kiting is as much about your kite skills as your board skills and the time learning the twintip is developing your kite skills. Hydrofoil really benefits from kite looping skills.

[Okkiteboarder]

Here is a video for the beginner foiler. Take a look.
https://youtu.be/qA_k8qK71vc

[Slappysan]

If you are going to try and learn to foil before learning to ride a TT or surfboard you for sure need to start with the Slingshot 38 cm or 44 cm masts. Anything else is just going to take you forever to learn.

[azoele]

Hello all,

I followed the "safest" advice (who says forums are not helpful?), and found me a 32L North Nugget 5.5 2014.
I was told it is a very good surf for beginners, and so bit the bullet; it also looks almost pristine.

Of course, after days on end with wind (but without a table/surf), now I got the surf, all the gear ready, and all we got is heavy rain
Gotta love this sport

Thanks all,
Lopi