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Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby Wazza Foil » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:35 am

I had a quick foil on the Onda and it instantly felt slick for a big wing - would love one.
I am looking for a wing in the medium size ie 1,000 to 1,200 sq cm projected size that is very efficient in lift and speed for kite foiling.
What are its equivalents or even better at hopefully a lower price - maybe Naish, Gong, Slingshot, Zeeko, Fanatic, Axis etc

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby Kamikuza » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:29 am

1200? Axis 750 I think is the same area. Very popular, good luck finding one :o

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby Sombra » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:40 pm

I just ordered the Gong M size surf foil for kite surfing. I'll post my findings here once I got it out on the water.

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby stevez » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:45 pm

I've been riding the kenalu foil, which is a very nice big wing for kitefoiling in waves.
https://kenalu.com/products/iwa-775.
Selling for $1000 complete. You can get it with a longer mast. Mine is 87cm.
I also have the smaller 580 wing (1050 cm2) which is probably more the size you're after.

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby tswierkocki » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:52 pm

I haven’t ridden the Onda but I’m really enjoying my Cloud 9 S24. They are on sale for $1099. Definitely worth a look.

https://cloud9surffoils.com/collections ... e-foil-set

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby TomW » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:07 pm

I've been on the Onda one season and love it. I ride a custom 120cm board with it.
I tested a friends Lf Impulse ( same as cloud IV). He had it with rear wing all the way back ( most stable) and on the Galaxy 145 cm board. It was super stable. I felt I cloud fall asleep and still foil! But it has very similar lift and low+top speed. Perhaps the moses is a bit faster.
My friend tried my set up at same session. He agreed on difference.

Then he changed the rear wing position and he said it made a big difference. I also bolted on my 135 board to the moses Onda and it changed the behaviour to much less agile.

I suspect that a LF Impulse on a short board with stab in front position, would be very similar to moses Onda. I've fixed his wing and his brothers happy wing. Seem like pretty well built wings from Lf. The happy board is a PoS, sorry to say. A waste of materials. I fixed that too...

I was riding my 135cm for a season. Then changed to 120cm with moses Onda.
The galaxy 145 felt absolutely massive!! Very wide too.

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby BWD » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:20 pm

If the onda is too slow for you, but you want the big/early lift and agility, some high quality options are:
Ketos 1200, MFC hydros, lift 170. All have had some hype and seem good.
Other good european ones are out there that could be good, from gong to levitaz etc.

The hydros and ketos are being ridden by some of the best, but not cheap or quick delivery. Can take some time to fulfill your order. Lift is also probably faster and good enough for experts, but harder to transport since the wings dont come off the fuse.

Another thing you could try is one of jim stringfellow’s wings, similar size, flat g10 and profile not too thick. He can make them to fit various fuselages, or his own. He made the wings drexler used before lift and mfc. He’s on facebook.

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby Huib » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:01 pm

@BWD - Do you think the Ketos 1200 is faster then the Onda? I saw someone who got 44km/h on the Onda. That seems for me pretty fast on such a big wing.
Currently I am considering the Ketos 1200 opposite the Onda with a Groove board. What would be your choice and why?

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby NEkitesurfing » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:27 pm

Try the SHINN MEGA K Foil. With 1200 cm² it is in the same range like the other foils mentioned before. Compared with the 633 it has a better top end speed and it is used on the same fuselage like the smaller wings. That means that you dont need to buy another fuselage if you want to change to smaller wings. It is more robust and cheaper as well.
https://www.shinnworld.com/model-mega-k-hydrofoil

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Re: Moses Onda is there better for me

Postby Huib » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:11 pm

NEkitesurfing wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:27 pm
Try the SHINN MEGA K Foil. With 1200 cm² it is in the same range like the other foils mentioned before. Compared with the 633 it has a better top end speed and it is used on the same fuselage like the smaller wings. That means that you dont need to buy another fuselage if you want to change to smaller wings. It is more robust and cheaper as well.
https://www.shinnworld.com/model-mega-k-hydrofoil
I have not seen the best foils coming from brands that have not fully focused for many years on foils.
In addition, different front and rear wings can be mounted on the Ketos fuselage.


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