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2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby a99 » Fri May 10, 2019 10:15 pm

Hello,
Just got idea to buy cheapest 15 euro stunt kite with two lines and adopt it to usual kite 4line bar.
Fabric of this kite by the way is nylon ripstop !
So, idea is to use it for foiling in strong winds just as fun and experiment, as i don't want to spend 400 euros now for flysurfer peak4 3 meter kite :)
Can someone who is good in foil kite designing tell me which lines i need to attach (or rearrange) for to 2 rear and which to 2 back lines for use with usual north quadr kite bar?
There is pictures for scroling:
https://m.made-in-china.com/product/Sal ... 64155.html

Probably as there is three rows of lines A b z, i need to reconnet z lines and make it for real lines ? And a b goes to 2 front lines ?

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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby foilholio » Fri May 10, 2019 11:19 pm

Trust me those kites are crap. It is not easy to convert some kites to 4 lines. Why not just get a 3m Pansh Genesis for $89?
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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby Kamikuza » Sat May 11, 2019 6:02 am

... I'm wondering what stunts a two-line foil kite can do ...

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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby norcom » Sat May 11, 2019 2:33 pm

foilholio wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:19 pm
Why not just get a 3m Pansh Genesis for $89?
DO NOT DO THIS! I just picked the 2019 3m for my girlfriend to teach her and the kite does not fly out of the bag. It barely flies with the depower all the way in. BARELY FLIES. It’s junk. But it was cheap.

JUNK!!!
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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby foilholio » Sat May 11, 2019 2:36 pm

Sounds like you have the trim wrong? All other reports of the 2019 is it flys great, even the pre 2019 flew out of the bag.

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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby styleito » Sat May 11, 2019 2:47 pm

foilholio wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 2:36 pm
Sounds like you have the trim wrong? All other reports of the 2019 is it flys great, even the pre 2019 flew out of the bag.

Nope,
He obviously has the volume too low.
Turn it up to 11 and that kite will rock! :mosh:

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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby foilholio » Sat May 11, 2019 2:58 pm

Here is some vids of the 4m




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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby norcom » Sat May 11, 2019 3:45 pm

foilholio wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 2:36 pm
Sounds like you have the trim wrong? All other reports of the 2019 is it flys great, even the pre 2019 flew out of the bag.

My bar is tuned. I have other foil kites. This kite does not fly properly. The ONLY way to make it get to zenith is to trim the bar ALL THE WAY IN. Sure it flies then but with full slack of the steering lines it barely turns. I can fly it but it’s definitely not suitable for teaching/learning and it shouldn’t be like this. With all lines equal the kite just backstalls and lands. Maybe I got a turd and others got lucky but I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone.

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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby foilholio » Sat May 11, 2019 4:07 pm

Lines being even or uneven is irrelevant. If you have hit the end of your trim range on the bar then you need to adjust things further with the lines. You need to shorten the fronts or lengthen the rears.

It does sound like there is something wrong with the kite though. The fact it is stalling and you can't turn it does not sound right. It probably is something wrong at the mixer, but could likely be other bridles... Mixer for me would be easy to fix just looking at it. If you can video it in action with it close enough for to see the bridles tensioning on and off I can give you advice. Otherwise start a paypal dispute and get a refund!

The problem at a guess is B is way too short and maybe C. But alternately it could be Z and maybe C is too long. First you would have to get the lines adjusted so you can correctly or fully trim the kite. If you can't get enough slack in B to depower it well or fly forward or have it completely slack at the window edge, then you may need to further adjust lines or lengthen B. From there then you adjust Z and C.

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Re: 2 lines 2.5m stunt foil kite adaptation to 4 lines bar

Postby kitexpert » Sat May 11, 2019 11:18 pm

norcom: Apparently some Genesis kites have for some reason very loose brakes (or at least that one had which I tuned). That makes kite turn very slowly, almost non reacting to steering input. So first correction is to shorten Z some 10-20cm and try again.

Kite itself is ok after it is tuned up and the price is unbeatable. Those smallest ones are probably the most useful because slowness can't be such an issue for them. It is not a high performance kite but it isn't meant to be. It is soft and stable kite, for boosting it is simply bad.

If front lines/back lines seems not to be correct to each other adjustments should be made to the kite, not flying lines which should always be equal.


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