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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby foilholio » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:47 pm

Did Pansh make it?

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby zob » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:38 am

foilholio wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:47 pm
Did Pansh make it?
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby zob » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:42 am

@jakemoore: I have to trie this tape on the wall method :D
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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby jakemoore » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:06 pm

zob wrote: @jakemoore: I have to trie this tape on the wall method :D
Not enough tension to do mixer test, but just a way to get a well laid out photo without 8 hands.

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby jakemoore » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:24 pm

foilholio wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:47 pm
Did Pansh make it?
I doubt the need for speculative mods, immediate tuning, 2:1 bars, non-standard different line lengths, rebuilding new mixer designs and removing entire bridle galleries to see it it becomes worth flying.

Like Ozone, Gin splices one line into a combined C-main and B-pulley. I never understood the economy of that design. It saves one splice and maybe a few grams but more difficult to replace. They reversed the shorter C-Main with the longer B pulley. Easy fix and well worth it as my main request was how soon can I get one?

Customer service experience is the opposite of Pansh. That is to say they contacted proactively to correct an assembly error. I suspect the number of customers who need to fix are a small pre-order crowd who received kites direct. I posted only to clear any rumor of defective kites.

So I’m quite happy with Gin. My only problem is I have new kites and the wrong conditions to fly them.

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby Flyfish » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:36 pm

My 2 cents:
Horrible mixer design.

No way to adjust for pulley line shrink. And on that note, having the C line spliced into the pully line means buying new pully line from Gin instead of just making simple line. And lastly, the low friction rings instead of pully's suck. I tried to convert a Flysurfer to those and I hated it. Way more wear on the lines and also I could feel the friction in the bar inputs compared to regular pulley's.

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Jakemoore, you beat me to the punch. Didn't see you posted about the mixer splice.

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby jakemoore » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:55 pm

Flyfish wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:36 pm
And on that note, having the C line spliced into the pully line means buying new pully line from Gin instead of just making simple line. And lastly, the low friction rings instead of pully's suck.
It’s easy to change with 2.5 mm amsteel actually and I gave done so on one of my Hyperlinks. I replaced the pullers with Harken rings. Hyperlink is a little different with rings but so far so good for me. The balance toward rings may change depending on how your sand is.

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:42 pm

jakemoore wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:13 pm
I believe it would be unfair to review the kite if it’s not in proper trim.
I agree with you, I did not know this problem when I wrote my initial review. But now I am a bit confused : I have a film of the waterstart trials, I do not like refrain from publishing tests ( I never do), but I know this kite may have not been setup correctly ; Ideally I should try a suitable Marabou now for better test and review , that would solve-out my "problem" ;

Gin, I you can here me ... since I cannot access anymore the Marabou I tested ...

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby foilholio » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:10 am

jakemoore wrote:I doubt the need for
jakemoore wrote:rebuilding new mixer
Flyfish wrote:Horrible mixer design
jakemoore wrote:It’s easy to change with 2.5 mm amsteel
Bahahahaha

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Re: Gin Marabou Water Relaunchable Single Skin

Postby jakemoore » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:04 am

6 Meter works for me on the Alaia strapless rocking upwind in 20-25 knots flat water. I can’t imagine this is the best use for this kite but is possible to ride without a foil. I don’t know if it would get me over waves. Downwind is more fun than upwind for sure, and riding straight downwind is easy to do.
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