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oregonkiter
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Postby oregonkiter » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:28 am
Your rear wing is mounted backwards
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DukeSilver
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Postby DukeSilver » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:05 am
Leo de Castro wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:59 am
thanks all
today even with a bad weather i had a great day to try the moses hidrofoil.
gush i'm love foil!
I love my Slingshoot. " just in the head of the wind "
THAKS MOSES CREW! ALOHA!
You think you love the foil now? Just wait till the stabiliser is mounted the correct way - facing forward
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derek440
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Postby derek440 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:24 am
I tried out a 633/483 and loved it, I just would like to go a bit faster for learning tacks and gybes, also I was waaaay forward on my strapless board and in a position where my other boards I wlll be too far forward to use even front footstrap holes without massive front foot pressure. So I bought a 683/483, borrowed a 749 fuse and bought a foilmount slingshot/moses adapter as I already have a hoverglide. I mounted on the 90cm SS mast and rode it and it was great but again feet waaay too far forward. I ordered a stringy 743 fuse and it arrived this week, have mounted and it looks like is definitely going to move my feet back to the right position for my boards. If it doesn't I might start playing with stab shims, seems I'd need some under the back bolt of stab to bring feet back, I could also put new holes in the SS mast plate to move the whole rig back an inch if necessary. Anyway am just waiting for wind to try it out today but hopefully its properly balanced. Will post some pics of the old and new, in the new pic you can see the mast is way closer to the front wing which is good news. btw Cumbuco is awesome and a great place for a 633!
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alowishus
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Postby alowishus » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:29 am
derek440 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:24 am
I tried out a 633/483 and loved it, I just would like to go a bit faster for learning tacks and gybes, also I was waaaay forward on my strapless board and in a position where my other boards I wlll be too far forward to use even front footstrap holes without massive front foot pressure. So I bought a 683/483, borrowed a 749 fuse and bought a foilmount slingshot/moses adapter as I already have a hoverglide. I mounted on the 90cm SS mast and rode it and it was great but again feet waaay too far forward. I ordered a stringy 743 fuse and it arrived this week, have mounted and it looks like is definitely going to move my feet back to the right position for my boards. If it doesn't I might start playing with stab shims, seems I'd need some under the back bolt of stab to bring feet back, I could also put new holes in the SS mast plate to move the whole rig back an inch if necessary. Anyway am just waiting for wind to try it out today but hopefully its properly balanced. Will post some pics of the old and new, in the new pic you can see the mast is way closer to the front wing which is good news. btw Cumbuco is awesome and a great place for a 633!
I got the foilmount adapter as well. The alternative “Stringy” adapter though looks like it moves the mast more towards the front wing since the bolt holes are in between and in front of the Moses fuse holes, rather than in between and behind the fuse holes in the case of the foilmount adapter... if that makes sense...
Stringy adapter pictured here:
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derek440
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Postby derek440 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
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DukeSilver
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Postby DukeSilver » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:51 pm
derek440 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
Nice one Derek. Glad you had a good kite today and loved the new gear. I went out today at Melville but ended up swimming in with a drowned Hyperlink.
Cheers - Ken H
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PurdyKiter
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Postby PurdyKiter » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:28 pm
derek440 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
Nice, I too have upgraded my Moses 633/483/91 with the Stringy fuselage mod and I find it to be a nicer balanced ride. This is on my strapless Kanaha Shapes board.
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Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:11 pm
DukeSilver wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:51 pm
Nice one Derek. Glad you had a good kite today and loved the new gear. I went out today at Melville but ended up swimming in with a drowned Hyperlink.
Cheers - Ken H
This happens now and then Ken, nothing to do about that, eventhough one '"swear" a lot just when it happens
But gives you SO many good days also, so worth it
Peter
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Postby grigorib » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:49 pm
Rode 683s in marginal 10 knots wind under 10m Slingshot on 30m lines at South Haven past Saturday. Clocked 21MPH. Had great time but unlike my friend I gave up on 590 set for those conditions.
He rode 590 under 10m SST on 27m lines.
Both on Dwarfcraft Micro in regards to board size.
Deeply thankful to Moses and Slingshot for delivering this awesomeness
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