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Postby DAnderson » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:06 pm
My observations: the Levitaz mast has more flex. I felt that the Cruiser wing was more reactive to wave action vs the onda. It's also a heavy rig, water-starting strapless would be difficult vs the floaty Moses. The Levitaz build feels much more substantial/durable.
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Postby mar menor » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:10 pm
Any reviews/comments on the hybrid mast (80) available with the cruizer.Am considering it with the 'match' board as alternative to T38 and onda.
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Postby Tony » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:41 am
I'm curious if the people reporting flex are on the 96cm carbon mast. I'm riding shallow waters with the 60cm and 80cm hybrid masts and do not notice any flex. The Levitaz foils are well engineered and flawless in their construction. Not the The lightest but the fuse is stainless and shorter masts are carbon/aluminum. The cruiser is a great wing.
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Postby flaps1111 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:30 pm
I'm selling a Cruizer in perfect condition if anyone is interested.
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Postby mar menor » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:11 pm
Is it an issue getting it in start position (on its side) due to weight? Why does it not seem to have many 'fans' ,is that mainly down to cost?
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Postby Horst Sergio » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm
Hi mar menor,
the Cruizer is very popular in my region, close to the manufacturer. But price to value can be an argument against, which might be better for the Onda. But I think Onda is also so popular as it is even more easy and slow. Haven't used it yet, but just check surface and profile thickness.
The Criuizer on the other hand is for those who want a very good light wind wing, but still want to jump without any worries and limits. That's why I bought one once again, even if I thought about switching to moses before, but jumping and low drag at higher speed seemed from outside few much better and the relevant point to me and for the Cruizer.
And yes it is heavy as some alu foils, but this has nothing to do with starting straped/-less. This is just about right starting technic with first a slow forward drift, then angle strut to let it float by hydrodynamic lift, done, start and go. Take a day to learn and it will no more be an issue.
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Postby jakemoore » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:21 pm
I had no problems with strapless water starts on the Cruizer and could do it without putting hands on the board if I used a low volume board.
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Postby WH Lithuania » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:52 pm
mar menor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:11 pm
Why does it not seem to have many 'fans' ,is that mainly down to cost?
I have a biased opinion, but I would NOT go with Cruizer because:
1) Onda is simply an amazing foil that almost everyone loves. When you get more advanced just add 683S wing to the mix.
2) Onda is much better cost and quality/cost ratio.
3) No probs to sell Onda quickly with minimal value decrease as no one is selling it. Just don't want to think about the amount of money lost on Cruizer resale.
Could be different reasons, but that's what looks from my chair.
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Postby cor » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:12 am
WH Lithuania wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:52 pm
mar menor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:11 pm
Why does it not seem to have many 'fans' ,is that mainly down to cost?
I have a biased opinion, but I would NOT go with Cruizer because:
1) Onda is simply an amazing foil that almost everyone loves. When you get more advanced just add 683S wing to the mix.
2) Onda is much better cost and quality/cost ratio.
3) No probs to sell Onda quickly with minimal value decrease as no one is selling it. Just don't want to think about the amount of money lost on Cruizer resale.
Could be different reasons, but that's what looks from my chair.
1) You can also mix Levitaz wings so I am not sure why that should be an argument
2) That depends on what quality you expect and what you want to spend. In my opinion, also Levitaz has a very good quality/cost ratio. It is just that both is better/higher than at Moses.
3) Not true. At least in Europe you can sell Levitaz very easy without loosing to much money.
Both companies make awesome foils and that's great. Competition is a good thing for the end customer. You can choose, depending on what you want to spend and what your expectations are in regard to quality.
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Postby WH Lithuania » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:59 am
cor wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:12 am
3) Not true. At least in Europe you can sell Levitaz very easy without loosing to much money.
Sure, everything is biased and opinion, but I find your statement more false than true. Even in this page you can see someone is trying to sell his Cruizer, not to mention I often see such posts on the Facebook. Prices are around half RRP and posts stay for long. Good like trying to find an used Onda at decent price.
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