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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby grigorib » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:50 pm

Matteo V wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:29 pm
ScoopZ wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:21 pm
To be fair, they make durable products that last, but I think the point is no-one would pay full price for them considering they have not freshened up the product line. I don't see anyone on RPM's anymore at my local beaches and not for a no. of years. They used to be very popular.

The worst thing for me was ditching Pat and the 'Wave division', and Alex Fox describing the SB line as legacy products. No thanks.

Still, id like an asylum with 35% off :wink:
Let's hope they raised their game with the raptor.
Guess I just think outside of the norm. To me, a good kite is pretty much timeless since 2011 or so. No new innovation has hit the market in design since then. So all the "newest, fastest, turniest, driftiest, unhookiest," are just screwing up what worked for what can be marketed as innovative.

I actyally would like some of my old kites from 2011 remade with 2013 materials. Both were good years, but since then........
- Large, bayonet (nozzle-less) inflation valve
- pulley-less bridles
- above the bar clam cleat depower
- less struts
- better relaunching
- single inflation point
- demise of "C" and open-C
- smaller and lighter lightwind kites
- lightweight (instead of "bombproof") wave kites

Above three are pretty valuable improvements that are more widespread than in 2011

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby Matteo V » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:10 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:50 pm
- Large, bayonet (nozzle-less) inflation valve Worth it for 17m and above, but too many issues with not sealing - became just another maintenance/defect issue
- pulley-less bridles Pulley's are still useful, pulleyless did not make them go away completely, I preferr at least 1 pulley toward wingtips
- above the bar clam cleat depower I grew up on this and did not know anyone other than naish or SlingShot was doing it exclusively back in the day
- less struts No struts to 5 struts - all useful for certain kite designs/feel.
- better relaunching 4line ckite, 5line ckite, bow kite, delta kite, then the "outside - opposite inside line launch" from worst to best, but we still do have 5 line C-kites
- single inflation point Adds weight to your "lightweight kites" below, along with more points for failure
- demise of "C" and open-C ckites are still used because openc could not mimic the performance of a ckite
- smaller and lighter lightwind kites Foil kites have been around for a long time, though closed cell is new
- lightweight (instead of "bombproof") wave kites not an improvement if you are trying new things at hectic breaks, sedate strapless - yes it is nice to have a lighter weight kite, but not when you are actually doing stuff that will put the kite down in the break
These are not significant innovation that made previous gear designs extinct.

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby james » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm

Just as well he called them “valuable improvement” then.

What’s wrong with you that you insist on dissecting every reply and with the only aim of denigrating someone else’s opinion?

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby caps » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:05 pm

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby Milko0k » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:10 am



At 3:04?

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby Matteo V » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:37 am

caps wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:05 pm
Back to the thread:
SlingShot "Switch Blade"?

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby Matteo V » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:39 am

james wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm
What’s wrong with you that you insist on dissecting every reply and with the only aim of denigrating someone else’s opinion?
It's called disagreement. And it's part of a "conversation".

And it is ok. Chill. You dont have to read my posts.

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby caps » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:24 am

Matteo V wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:37 am
caps wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:05 pm
Back to the thread:
SlingShot "Switch Blade"?
It’s definitely similar to other kites out there. But a switchblade? No. Looks like higher aspect to me

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby lisaped » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:58 pm

Whatever it is called it is definitely behind others as its designer Jeff Logosz who designers all products for SS is just an old man who today can only fart into his designer armchair and be called revolutionary designer by his merchandisers. They forget to say about his revolutionery designs in early 2000-th, not nowadays.
That kite is developed long ago by others like Shy Man from Oregon said and can be just copied by Slingshot as they can't develop anything their own as it is an old fashioned brand in kiteboarding. Even in wingsurfing they were not the first but tried to be brave after Naish and others that spring.

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Re: Slingshot Raptor kite

Postby grigorib » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:34 pm

Milko0k wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:10 am


At 3:04?
And at 2:59


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