Naish Pivot 2020

[Hugh2]

This sounds like a royal pain all around, especially the inability to use someone else's pump. I'd better buy some more older Pivots!

[andylc]

I really cannot believe that needing a specific adaptor is considered a downside of a new kite design. The new F-one kites use an SUP style valve - every kite comes with one so I just leave a spare in the kite bag. Not sure if it’s the same one Naish are using but it’s definitely the best valve I’ve used, really easy inflation and deflation, no leakage and the entire valve can be easily replaced.

[POACHER]

You would complain about anything new from them you twat. So why even bother posting.

It's funny you took issue with my "not being able to wipe your own ass" comment without citing you specifically..... because really everyone here knows that it's you I'm referencing.

When it's really blowing your time closing the valves will be longer for sure but its not the time. Nobody cares about a few seconds...
The kite is shaking and twisting around like crazy during the time closing them. Sometimes the bridles tangle around the wingtip. And then you will have to untangle again. In about 20 Knots or more a pain in the ass....

But I suppose if you weren't up to task for closing the Octopus valves that new valve is really going to be a struggle for your little hands.....

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Thanks for playing dummy. Move along now, the grown ups are talking.

[Ice101]

Oh that looks super sweet. Getting pumped here. haha.
It that a pic of the inflation system? Does it work well? Is it compatible with normal pumps?

Better it is compatible with the cheap decathlon sup pumps at 20 quid and they blow it up in seconds and way easier than a kite pump! Bandits been using that system for last two years and it is awesome with an itiwit sup pump! Better pressure gages fitted on them too

[Ice101]

I still find it very awkward that Naish is the only manufacturer now that offers a non switchable double stroke pump.
Contemplated that the kites should be pumped with more than 10psi I wonder how a light person like a small lady should be able to pump up the kite properly?
But obviously Naish bought a shipload of these low-grade pumps and still did not run out of them....

Glad to see the Octopus is history now.

Get a cheap itiwit sup pump from decathlon sports. £20 and way better than all the brands kite pumps. No effort at all, has double to single pump switch as well and a decent high pressure gauge better than most kite pumps. Makes very light work on kites.

[magnusod]

Oh that looks super sweet. Getting pumped here. haha.
It that a pic of the inflation system? Does it work well? Is it compatible with normal pumps?

Better it is compatible with the cheap decathlon sup pumps at 20 quid and they blow it up in seconds and way easier than a kite pump! Bandits been using that system for last two years and it is awesome with an itiwit sup pump! Better pressure gages fitted on them too

Yeah, it is a really nice system. I have Naish kites but borrowed a friends Fone while on a trip. Let's hope that eventually more brands will jump on the wagon making this the most common system replacing the Boston valve. Since it's already the standard on Isups the selection of pumps increases.

[POACHER]

So a friend of mine that's been kicking around new Pivots mentioned Real's review of the new 2020 Pivot. Most interestingly, specifically saying the kite has redone the wingtips making them larger, and making the kite more freestyle oriented. That's a significant change that would certainly garner some attention.
It's odd that any wingtip modification hasn't been mentioned by Naish on their website, Kiteboarding.com's review, and any other industry insiders here or otherwise.....

To quote Jeff Howard -
"Don't change it."

[Exal]

Probably was a last minute change after kevin couldn't win the megaloop challenge with the wuss kite

[iriejohn]

Does the 2020 Pivot have a "static bridle platform" (pulley-less bridle)?

[cokerkites]

This sounds like a royal pain all around, especially the inability to use someone else's pump. I'd better buy some more older Pivots!

I used it the 2020 the other day and its actually a really nice system. With a pump the adapter makes it insanely easy. I also used an air compressor and found it easier to use the adapter with the compressor as just compressing air into it was more difficult than it looked.