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grigorib
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:25 pm

Flyboy wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:10 pm
grigorib wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:02 pm
My 683s/710/450 have completely replaced my 633/749/483 and a local, heavier buddy of mine snapped the 633/749/483 from me
So, you prefer the performance of the 683 overall?
Yes. I figured that at my 200 lbs the 683s delivers just as much lowend and feels faster (while top speed is just a notch higher). I think a 900-100 sq.cm wing is golden for my very carvy and speedy riding style.
It has been a bliss riding 633 for a year and a half but the only regret I have is that I didn't buy 683s in February 2018 along with 633. I'm happy that i had a chance to ride both extensively before making a choice.

And 590 is still my "large body of water, speedier wing"
It's a good life.

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For sale: Slingshot SST 6m 2018 $480, Slingshot RPM 11m 2018 like new $600, Slingshot Turbine 5m 2017 like new $450, BROkite carbon board 140x44cm like new complete $650, Slingshot Rally 6m 2017 like new $530
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:39 pm

I think that after a year and a half of very exciting foil market development has yet more to bring:

- hopefully there’ll be simple, universal fuselage for kite/wake/surf line (and separate windsurf fuselages obviously)
- hopefully there’ll be a fast/thin but more lightwind wing in 800-900 sq.cm size
- hopefully the wings/stabilizers to come will be more swept back to help fight seaweed
- hopefully wings/stabilizers will have tiny dull bulges on the tips to protect the riders/property from cuts and wings from damage better

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 pm

grigorib wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:20 pm
TomW wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:26 am
Moses Please make a compatibility chart !
1. Any mast fits any fuselage (except upcoming aluminum setup). There are at least 2 pretty adapters out there to fit Hoverglide mast to any fuselage.
2. Kite 680 and 647 fuselages fit following wings - 558/550/548/590 freeride, 580/600/600a/637/645 race. Also fit Slingshot 545 (558) freeride and 576 (580) race wings
3. Kite 680 and 647 fuselages fit following stabilizers - 325/330 freeride, 345/380/420/425 race. Also fit Slingshot 328 (330) freeride and 342 (345) race stabilizers.
4. Kite/Surf/SUP 749/710 fuselages fit 633/683s/790/873 wings and 483/450 stabilizers. Could also be used with roughly fitting kite stabilizers but there were conflicting reports on whether those perform well
5. Windsurf 838 fuselage fits 683/639 wings and 483/450 stabilizer
6. Windsurf 900 fuselage fits 633/683s/790/780/900 wings and 425 stabilizer. I’d guess 483/450 might fit too and it makes sense for larger wings.


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P.P.S. Any corrections are welcome
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1. Any carbon mast fits any fuselage (except upcoming aluminum setup). Aluminum masts fit any fuselage marked ALU. There are at least 2 pretty adapters out there to fit Hoverglide mast to any fuselage intended for use with carbon mast.
2. Kite 680 and 647 fuselages fit following wings - 558/550/548/590 freeride, 580/600/600a/637/645/900 race. Also fit Slingshot 545 (558) freeride and 576 (580) race wings
3. Kite 680 and 647 fuselages fit following stabilizers - 325/330 freeride, 345/380/420/425 race. Also fit Slingshot 328 (330) freeride and 342 (345) race stabilizers.
4. Kite/Surf/SUP 749/710 fuselages and Windsurf 900 fuselage fit 720/683s/633/790/873 wings and 483/450 stabilizers. Could also be used with roughly fitting kite stabilizers but there were conflicting reports on whether those perform well
5. Windsurf 838 fuselage fits 683/639 wings and 483/450 stabilizer
6. Windsurf 1100 fuselage fits 645/900 wings and 425 stabilizer. It would also fit other wings and stabilizers fitting 680/647 fuselages but I guess no reason to do it


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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Flyboy » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:45 pm

Is there any problem with using a 633 wing on a 4'6" Dwarfcraft? IE - is it possible to position the plate far enough back in the track to balance the lift of the wing?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby caps » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:17 pm

I’ve been on a 633/DC 4’6” for over a year and not even set all the way back. My fav position is set at 1.5 on the track. And that would be with 2 front straps set all the way forward. Super, enjoyable setup. Cheers!
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:09 pm

Looking for couple of kite foiling reports if someone has feedback to share on:
- 900 wing on 647 fuselage with 330/420/425 stabilizer
- 720 wing on 710 with 450 stabilizer
- 633/683s wing with 420/425 stabilizer

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:36 pm

If anyone wanted to know.. have been jumping 683s quite a lot lately with very hard landings holding up fine :thumb:

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby dave1986 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:34 pm

Is there any issue with jumping on the 633 wing? I've not tried yet, but should I have any concerns about damaging the wing?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby DAnderson » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:32 pm

1st session on the 720, w/ the 749 & 483. 12 to 18 mph on 12m soul.
Just first impression as I haven't spent much time on it, about an hour.
Better low end vs the 590. The 590 can drop off foil abruptly ~8-9mph; while the 720 does drop, it's probably in the 5-6mph range.
I only pushed it a little, it felt "shaky?" ~20mph, a bit disappointing in that regard. Certainly not a locked-in feel. Playful.
Hoping for a one-fuselage multiple front-wing setup, wishing it was just a bigger 590 for the sup fuse.
Going to swap stab's for the next venture.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby elguapo » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:36 pm

any brave soul try a 900 wing yet?


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