longwhitecloud wrote:
add $2000 foils to the sport - $1000 click bars, $4000 race kites
I actually agree with you in many ways the industry is very disappointing. Kiteboarding is not racing though, racing is a small part of kiteboarding. The olympics is not really anything to do with kiting, and I would argue it is just stupid period. You don't need a foil to kite, any of the many cheap surfboards are fine. If you do want a foil then that is a silly price to pay. Bars well that is a real let down and the industry fails here with what must be a high profit item whos design is always poor and deficient. Bars should cost 100-300, and you can buy or assemble them for that. Race kites, are for racing and to me it is niche. If you want cheaper racing make classes with cheaper gear.
longwhitecloud wrote:
It's great news all around that way overpriced sinking wave destructed flying sleeping bags and their disproportional stretching spaghetti bridles are finally going to be put to rest.
Some foil kites are the cheapest kites to buy of any kite and I would argue most foil kites are the cheapest by hours they last. The lines don't stretch, the kites don't sink either and they are incredible durable especially in waves, far more so than a tube.
dave1986 wrote:
Having the most aerodynamically efficient kite is most important in light winds and racing.
The only way Aluula will help with this is if they make the tubes thinner with corresponding higher pressure. Bruno has already demonstrated this without the need for Aluula. I am not certain it would be so successful from the videos. It is interesting, and other ideas like double skin inflatable hybrids are too.
dave1986 wrote:
Freeride in medium to stronger winds the characteristics of high aerodynamic efficiency that come from foil kites become less important
Not so sure about that, more performance I think is always nice.
dave1986 wrote:
and the "feel" of the kite as well as safety and other factors then takes over as more important.
Could argue a foil feels nicer, with lighter bar and smoother. Remind me again how tubes are safer because getting dragged by a death looping tube does not look safe to me.
OzBungy wrote:
My understanding is that foil kites have one specific advantage. You can make a very high aspect, very efficient wing because of the support of the bridles and the internal structure.
Nope that is not their only advantage, otherwise people would only use them in high AR. Perhaps rather than glossing over what I write as shit try understand it.
Toby wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:25 am
How about your proof ?