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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby tomtom » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:04 am

Cool!!! Very nice video and riding
Which mast did you used? How much power did you get from pumping vs wing? It almost looked like you can make it without wing at all :) Thanks!

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Foil » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:16 am

I can see many being tempted into trying wing foil surfing by that video Gunnar,
probably the best footage I have seen yet,
and those waves look so good I bet many may even try flag beach at some time.
its a great vid.
Your drone or Anthony's

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:32 am

tomtom wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:04 am
Cool!!! Very nice video and riding
Which mast did you used? How much power did you get from pumping vs wing? It almost looked like you can make it without wing at all :) Thanks!
I am using the new 82cm Surf Mast in the Video. Most of the power is from pumping. The 4m Wing creates very little power in such light winds.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:32 am

Foil wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:16 am
I can see many being tempted into trying wing foil surfing by that video Gunnar,
probably the best footage I have seen yet,
and those waves look so good I bet many may even try flag beach at some time.
its a great vid.
Your drone or Anthony's
It's Anthonies Drone :-)

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby tomtom » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:26 am

Last question
is 82cm Surf Mast significantly stiffer than 92 kite one? :)
And again - your riding is very inspiring

Im doing a lot of surfskate recently which is powered by pumping and there is something magical about be able to propel yourself by pumping and use slopes /waves in your case/ in synergy with your movement. We are living interesting times gear wise...

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:01 pm

tomtom wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:26 am
Last question
is 82cm Surf Mast significantly stiffer than 92 kite one? :)
And again - your riding is very inspiring

Im doing a lot of surfskate recently which is powered by pumping and there is something magical about be able to propel yourself by pumping and use slopes /waves in your case/ in synergy with your movement. We are living interesting times gear wise...
Hi Tom.

Yes the 82 Surf Mast is a lot stiffer than the 91 Kite Mast. It is almost as stiff as the 75 Alu mast.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby tkaraszewski » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:01 pm

I’d love to see a comparison of the 695 and 718 wings by someone who’s ridden both. I’m likely going to buy at least one of these two new wings.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby tomtom » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:24 pm

Thanks about mast info!

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby dave1986 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:33 am

gmb13 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:01 pm
tomtom wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:26 am
Last question
is 82cm Surf Mast significantly stiffer than 92 kite one? :)
And again - your riding is very inspiring

Im doing a lot of surfskate recently which is powered by pumping and there is something magical about be able to propel yourself by pumping and use slopes /waves in your case/ in synergy with your movement. We are living interesting times gear wise...
Hi Tom.

Yes the 82 Surf Mast is a lot stiffer than the 91 Kite Mast. It is almost as stiff as the 75 Alu mast.

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How does the Slingshot aluminium mast compare with the Moses carbon masts for stiffness?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby tomtom » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:32 am

Which ones? We discus here that new Moses carbon surf mast is much stiffer than old "normal and current" carbon kite one. Still not as stiff as they ALU but almost.
From this you can extrapolate that SS ALU is about same as Moses ALU. Almost all alu mast are stiffer than carbon - except maybe Alpine which was quite weight optimized /but still stiffer than moses kite carbon/. ALU components need good connecting interfaces which is where they differ most. But most current ones have this sorted. And again many people riding very soft Moses kite mast and they are happy. I think you feel differences if your riding is very physical - pumping and hard carving /which is also pumping but in different plane/

And maybe you feel differences from just riding very stiff setup for some time and then softer mast will be problem for you :)


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